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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: hobbes1
HAHA yes it does, doesn't it??? I'm doing pretty good....you??

Got a big kick out of Arghies pic...

3,521 posted on 08/05/2002 4:45:25 PM PDT by Neets
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To: rintense
And "FR Lives . . . Long live FR!" back atcha!
3,522 posted on 08/05/2002 4:47:43 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: Jim Robinson
Please Jim, be like the energizer bunny. We need this site as much as we need a computer
3,523 posted on 08/05/2002 4:50:30 PM PDT by Dlta4ce
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To: OneidaM
very well thank you.

HE looks kinda like I pictured...

3,524 posted on 08/05/2002 4:51:29 PM PDT by hobbes1
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To: Jim Robinson
I see a lot of people asked to continue the FR, and I will add my voise too.

I once thought of leaving, and I was talked into staying. So I am asking the same now.

I know the FR started as your dream. Don't let that be destroyed by them.

What is more important? Thousands of people who beg you to keep on going or the few whiners? I doubt people really care what they are saying, so just hold the dream!


Hold The Dream

When you're lost and lonely
And you feel you can't go on
In the blink of an eye
You could throw it all away

You can turn your world around
Show them all what you can do
Just believe, and trust your heart
To see you through

A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again

Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream

Don't ever let it get you down
When they turn their back on you
Just do what feels right
You can find what you're looking for
Don't get lost along the way
Always be strong, your heart can't be wrong
Don't give up and your dreams will come true

A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again

Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream
Hang onto tomorrow
Hold the dream
3,525 posted on 08/05/2002 4:54:06 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: strela
Ok...and I'll leave you with this:

Steiger's Law": "People involved in a structure spend more time and energy maintaining that structure than in working toward its goals."

3,526 posted on 08/05/2002 4:56:25 PM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: Yehuda
Stay of course....it's like Fox news...there's no real substitute....and FR is much faster.
3,527 posted on 08/05/2002 4:57:10 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Dlta4ce; Jim Robinson
We need this site as much as we need a computer

I'd say, if I have no FR, what the f*** is my computer for?

It's the place where I can gulp a little bit fresh air after throwing away in disgust the last issue of my soooo liiiiberal paper (you have no choice here in NZ, it's either a liberal rag or nothing).

I vote for FR staying with all my four limbs and the smaller, but so important fifth one. And to hell with the so called cencorship...

3,528 posted on 08/05/2002 4:59:29 PM PDT by Neophyte
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To: terilyn; TLBSHOW
terilyn: So I took a gander over at LP. Funny, there are about 20 people that spend all day agreeing with each other.

Anti-freepers are people with no life but to wake in the morning check FR, cut and paste a post or two run back to LP and post it.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time over there. The antifreepers are kept locked away in their own little cage, where they can snipe to their heart's content without disrupting the news forum. And contrary to terilyn's assertion, there is real debate over there.

I agree with Bob J and BADJOE. There is ample room for a Liberty Post or a Lucianne.com. The more the merrier!

3,529 posted on 08/05/2002 4:59:48 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: OneidaM
Darn, damn, crap, shoot....wait till I can find out who he/she is...LOL.

Are you kidding? It was obviously jj.

3,530 posted on 08/05/2002 5:02:02 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: OneidaM
ROTFLMAO..never mind,...I know who it is...HAHAHAH how stupid of me.

LOL! Never mind my last post! ;o)

3,531 posted on 08/05/2002 5:03:09 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: terilyn
If Jim charged a nickel for every post or article that was copied and pasted from FR to LP, he'd never have to have another fundraiser.

I think Jim needs more than $.15. I don't think I've seen more than three.

You love FR, and that's great! But there's no need for anyone to trash other forums. Each can serve its own purpose.

3,532 posted on 08/05/2002 5:05:21 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Jim Robinson
Once again, a good news source with sone thoughtful and some inane analysis (Of course, the analysis I agree with is thoughtful and that I don't like is inane by definition :) and with a minimum of flame wars, has to stay!!
3,533 posted on 08/05/2002 5:07:06 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Jim Robinson
I appreciate this site and hope that it continues operating far into the future.

Personally, I am not interested in the the discussions or accusations regarding management decisions or financial issues. As far as I'm concerned, it's nobody's business but yours, and those you ask for input.

Thanks Jim and John.

3,534 posted on 08/05/2002 5:08:58 PM PDT by kcpopps
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To: DCBryan1
Agree with your pay for use concept but suggest that you set a minimum price per month. Some would spend more. There are not many sites I would pay to visit. This is one of them.
3,535 posted on 08/05/2002 5:10:41 PM PDT by JonH
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To: VA Advogado
This is the best site for getting the real news....keep it ALIVE
3,536 posted on 08/05/2002 5:10:44 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: strela
LibertyPost is a joke. They appear to be essentially a bunch of soreheads who are jealous of the success you have wrought here. There's no sport in trolling them either; using a broadaxe on a kitten is more challenging.

Have you spent any time in the news forum, or have you just gone slumming in the "biker bar"? LP is in its infancy, and will develop its own niche just as Lucianne.com did. The news forum is already hopping quite a bit more than it was a month ago.

For the record, I am a monthly financial contributor to FR and will continue to be so. LP will not take anything away from FR. It is not a zero sum game. The more such forums there are, the bigger the "pie" will get. This can only be a good thing for the conservative movement.

3,537 posted on 08/05/2002 5:10:53 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Neophyte
I'd say, if I have no FR, what the f*** is my computer for?

ROFLMAO. Very well said.

3,538 posted on 08/05/2002 5:11:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm here if you need me. Always have been; always will.
3,539 posted on 08/05/2002 5:11:25 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

If this disappears, we wil lose another outlet of free speech. Especially come November, 2002 when CFR takes effect.
3,540 posted on 08/05/2002 5:12:11 PM PDT by P8riot
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