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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: OneidaM
ROTFLOL
3,481 posted on 08/05/2002 3:27:48 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: terilyn
Good point! Never thought of it that way!
3,482 posted on 08/05/2002 3:29:45 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Jim Robinson
Folks I sure dont agree with everything said on here and there are a lot of you who dont agree with me but this is an open line of communication and in most cases at least I respect those on here who disagree and feel they feel the same.I havent run across any of the problem makers yet I guess but for Gods sake and Americas sake lets not let this sight close down. I am retired and on a fixed income and I will keep paying my share or what I can,dont let go for the good of Amercia. We are almost losing rights daily now in America,keep the faith and the open line of communication.
3,483 posted on 08/05/2002 3:29:54 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: Jim Robinson
Uh uh, don't even think about pulling FR. I've lurked since '98 and can't imagine starting my day without my FR news and commentary fix. You tell us how much you need and I will bump my donation accordingly. This is the best news site on the web, with the best commentary on the web -- I'm addicted!
3,484 posted on 08/05/2002 3:33:01 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Jim Robinson
I see that I will be 3,484 or close to it. I check with FR almost every day. I will continue to support it $$ as long as it continues.
3,485 posted on 08/05/2002 3:33:30 PM PDT by Jackie222
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To: McLynnan
You tell us how much you need and I will bump my donation accordingly.

FR needs $1,000,000. Thanks! ;-)

3,486 posted on 08/05/2002 3:34:48 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo
FR needs $1,000,000. Thanks! ;-)

:::::looking for my mega bucks checkbook::::::

Drat, it's missing, would you accept a few shares of greatly devalued stock?

3,487 posted on 08/05/2002 3:38:01 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Jim Robinson
If we didn't have Free Republic, where would all good conservatives go to discuss the issues of the day and clear up all the little discrepancies in reporting by the liberal press? This site keeps a lot of us sane.
3,488 posted on 08/05/2002 3:43:41 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
If we didn't have Free Republic, where would all good conservatives go to discuss the issues of the day and clear up all the little discrepancies in reporting by the liberal press?

LibertyPost, of course. ;)

3,489 posted on 08/05/2002 3:45:16 PM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: Jim Robinson
The answers to the two questions are "No" and "No."

Free Republic will never make everyone happy. It's kind of like trying to make your wife happy.

I don't know why FR would be considered a fraud. It would have to be portraying itself as something it is not in order to be a fraud.

Is it time for FR to go away? I don't think it is possible to make FR go away. I don't think you could beat it to death with a club at this point.

Keep up the good work. You have given the world something really special and necessary!

3,490 posted on 08/05/2002 3:47:22 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I applaud you for your perspicacity and vision and I say the naysayers should "shut up and quit whining about it." I never did understand why some folks want to screw up what someone else is doing if they don't like it instead of going somewhere else and opening their OWN place and running it like they want.

Max

3,491 posted on 08/05/2002 3:49:38 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: McLynnan
Drat, it's missing, would you accept a few shares of greatly devalued stock?

Welch. ;-)

3,492 posted on 08/05/2002 3:52:23 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Jim Robinson
Maybe I'm a dim bulb, but why are we re-hashing this from last year?

I know the about concern for the disruptor types and the "censorship" issue some have a problem with, but the original post from last year has me confused. What's up?

subterfuge
3,493 posted on 08/05/2002 3:52:59 PM PDT by subterfuge
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To: Yehuda
Oh, I'm supposed to vote?

Ok, I vote for FR to stay. And I've got 400 people sitting here with me and they all vote that FR stays. No, really, they're here, all 400 of them and they vote STAY.
3,495 posted on 08/05/2002 3:56:07 PM PDT by subterfuge
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To: Jim Robinson
FR MUST stay! I don't know HOW you've put up with the disruptors for so long (although we do have fun, in a twisted sort of way, with them....they're so "EASY"!!!!), and I don't know why this is being discussed again, but please, don't ever take away FR!!!!
3,496 posted on 08/05/2002 3:56:28 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Jim Robinson
What ever you decide, Jim, is alright with Mrs. Submareener and me. We will continue to support FreeRepublic.com financially right until you decide to stop doing it.
3,497 posted on 08/05/2002 3:58:20 PM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Yehuda
I vote STAY!
3,498 posted on 08/05/2002 3:58:33 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: Jim Robinson
I vote for it to go away.

If the main stream press, schools and gvoernment agencies stopped pushing the liberal biased view points 24/7, Freerepublic could die a natural death and we could all go back to work without having to constantly look over our shoulders.

3,499 posted on 08/05/2002 4:01:08 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Yehuda
Did I miss something ... where is it going??
3,500 posted on 08/05/2002 4:02:06 PM PDT by Mo1
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