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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: tpaine
This is the kind of info we all need in order to get this site on some sort of a firm financial footing.

WE? WE?

If I'm still here in a few weeks, and the playing field isn't too tilted, the check will be in the mail. -- Trust me. --- And I'll trust you.

If you're still here in a few weeks, I'll want to know how much you contributed.

3,061 posted on 12/02/2001 2:38:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Z2
Are you a internet virus Z2?

You sure sound like a liberal cry baby good for nothing totally mental moron!

3,062 posted on 12/02/2001 2:38:29 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Z2
[Snippy]

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

1. Your nose is out of joint because JR didn't include you by name?

2. Are you the same little beta-gamma twit that threatened another website administrator with contacting his employer...

3. ...and sharing his personal information with mojoke...?

4. Do you know how to do bullets? Not the ones from Headhunter's .45-.32 Walker Navy Colt for $30 grand.

5. Make a list of your charges and allegations and give the source for same...then spell your name correctly.

3,063 posted on 12/02/2001 2:40:22 PM PST by harrowup
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Pssstt..BTW is the "t" in tpaine stand for "total"? Just curious."

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I'm curious too, -- do you ever follow the thread back to see what others are refering to on their posts?

Back aways, #2491 I believe, I made a suggestion about financing FR.

John replied with a freepmail, and I asked him the question on cost per post.

Can you tell me why that makes me a 'total paine'?

3,064 posted on 12/02/2001 2:40:38 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Howlin
LOL!

Hey, FreeRepublic is forcing me to post here! I want my money back! lawsuit! lawsuit!

Gawd how do they come up with this stuff? These people have chitferbrains

3,065 posted on 12/02/2001 2:40:43 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Z2
Has Free Republic ever employed a display board at CPAC and elsewhere purporting to represent its "Nonprofit Corporations?"

C'mon Miggs - you, Alison, and myself have better stuff than that on our site. The Penny Ante stuff like the above is not the reason why we always say that JR shot rot in a jail cell.

Take out the big guns - BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

3,066 posted on 12/02/2001 2:40:49 PM PST by FR Truth Teller
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To: monkeyshine

3,067 posted on 12/02/2001 2:41:16 PM PST by John Robinson
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To: monkeyshine
(Used up all my monkies.)
3,068 posted on 12/02/2001 2:41:42 PM PST by John Robinson
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To: tpaine
I think somewhere in the previous 2,000 posts and within the last 5 years of FreeRepublic, the question has been addressed. Okay, not a total paine, maybe a nagging backache. Which is better than a hemorrhoid. :)
3,069 posted on 12/02/2001 2:42:25 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
What was the result of your HIV test last time?

The maggot king don't get no nookie...dat what make him so mean.

3,070 posted on 12/02/2001 2:42:38 PM PST by harrowup
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To: John Robinson; Texaggie79
Cats that graduate from A&M.
3,071 posted on 12/02/2001 2:43:54 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: FR Truth Teller
(I wonder which one you are..)
If you got it, why not POST IT? It doesn't have to be LOTF, YOU DO IT, Mr. TruthTeller.
Bring out the evidence.
3,072 posted on 12/02/2001 2:44:40 PM PST by diotima
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To: TLBSHOW
ROTFL!
3,073 posted on 12/02/2001 2:45:53 PM PST by firewalk
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To: diotima
Remember the person we were discussing earlier? Methinks that's him. The folks on AFWAA don't call me Miggs.
3,074 posted on 12/02/2001 2:50:01 PM PST by Z2
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To: Howlin
How bout I just send it to you first? -- If you approve, you can match it, and send it along to JR.
3,075 posted on 12/02/2001 2:50:54 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
How about you just tell us how much you give. We'll trust you.
3,076 posted on 12/02/2001 2:52:22 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Z2
what part of mental don't you understand? Run along now I hear the Hillary site needs trashing!
3,077 posted on 12/02/2001 2:55:30 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Z2
I thought so. I know I don't call you Miggs, Honey Pie.
I never much liked the Miggs thing.
3,078 posted on 12/02/2001 2:59:06 PM PST by diotima
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To: Howlin
Re #3055 - hilarious! You could ask for a colonic and its results, but it would be hard to determine which end to go to.
3,079 posted on 12/02/2001 2:59:54 PM PST by Commonsense
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To: tpaine
Why don't you start your own site. Call it copycats.com and knock yourself out. LOL
3,080 posted on 12/02/2001 3:01:56 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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