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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Howlin
You know exactly what I meant, and if you think I'm gonna engage in a mindless argument with you like Arator has been doing all day, you're incredibly wrong. You got on my case for replying to your question that was posted to another member, I said that you had stated that you didn't want to hear it anyways. I documented what I said and what you said.

Now go back to trolling Arator. He will doggedly rebut your ever-insane posts until Jim bans us all again. You're looking at a good forty eight hours or so.

Now git!

1,961 posted on 11/29/2001 4:43:16 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
This thread alone is proof of why FreeRepublic must continue.I'm in Freeper heaven! This is like one of my family reunions, with all of the crazy aunts and uncles invited to dinner! I can't turn off the computer! Thank you Jim!!!
1,962 posted on 11/29/2001 4:44:56 PM PST by airborne
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To: Arator
#1382: Arator, about 'Anonymoderator' abuse.

Some crackpot moderator FReepmailed me two weeks ago threatening me with suspension.

I told h/she to butt off and then suspended myself for two weeks.

I just came back Tuesday and was greeted with a rash of mindless vanities with titles like "What's the most popular baby name" or "Who are the single male Freepers."

Sad stuff...

Oh yeah,one more thing,,,,

GO PAT GO!

1,963 posted on 11/29/2001 4:44:58 PM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
The way you say things around here, what was I to think Harry. You're not the most reputable poster on here, you know.
1,964 posted on 11/29/2001 4:45:59 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You're looking at a good forty eight hours or so.

A good 48 hours of what?

1,965 posted on 11/29/2001 4:46:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
I dunno bro, debate has gone by the way side compared to a year or so ago...I truly do not understand why so many waste their intellegence on such trivial bullshit.

I would give my left one for some of the folks IQ around here. I see it used to convince, not educate.

That is what I see as the problem...at times, causes a little disfunction. For what it's worth...

SR

1,966 posted on 11/29/2001 4:47:51 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Equal_Protection_My_Ass
EPMA,

Welcome to FreeRepublic. I do not know whether you are familiar with the writings of Ayn Rand. However, in Atlas Shrugged (published in 1957) her characters discuss "progressivism". The policies that the "progressives" in the book argued for are the exact policies the progressives of today argue for.

You claim that progressives are slowed by conservatives. The problem with "progressivism" is that there is very little "progress" involved.

I hope that you stick around for a while. Mr. Robinson is actually quite fair. We might learn something from each other.

One last thing, your post was filled with form letter rhetoric. I would suggest putting your thoughts into your own words.

regards,

1,967 posted on 11/29/2001 4:48:15 PM PST by JakeWyld
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To: Billie; Jim Robinson
Billie,my dear and special friend and partner with the Canteen here at FR.I love your post and I love how we think and feel so much alike. Thank you for being a FReeper and for loving FR as much as I do and for respecting Jim Robinson as much as I do too.

Jim, you just let us know what we can do. Thank you again.

1,968 posted on 11/29/2001 4:48:49 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Carolinamom; bulldog905; Howlin
All politics aside, you owe Howlin an apology, big time.

I agree. To date, Arator, I have not seen one posted. Did I miss it?

OK, I'll apologize to dear Howlin. Howlin, I apologize for not being the liar and fraud you have repeatedly and falsely accused me of being. I'm truly sorry. I know the truth is probably very hard to for you to take.

There. I feel better now. Thanks for the suggestion. ;^)

1,970 posted on 11/29/2001 4:51:40 PM PST by Arator
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To: alcuin
#1548: "Even the ones (Republican flacks) born before 1969? Who know the moon landing was faked?

The aging process is a funny thing.

In 1969, I didn't trust anyone over 30 years old.

Now, I don't trust anyone younger than 30...

1,971 posted on 11/29/2001 4:52:26 PM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Howlin
"A good 48 hours of what?"

Trolling Arator concerning the HOWLINFR thingEy, of course. What did you think I meant? Arator and I are going to be banned within the next forty-eight hours or so, and everybody knows it. So feel free to heel bite Arator. He can't resist rebutting your arguments over and over and over and over, even though he WON the argument HUNDREDS of posts ago.

Arator is like a poker player when it comes to debates. He will debate and debate and debate and debate.

Me? I'm all done with you on this GW thingEy. Why? Because YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T INTERESTED IN WHAT I HAD TO SAY concerning it.

Therefore, you may bother Arator now.

Thanks in advance!

1,972 posted on 11/29/2001 4:52:39 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: dighton
Those who pronounce on copyright law should learn to spell it.

Good point. Now you can send in your donation and get a good night's sleep to boot!

1,973 posted on 11/29/2001 4:52:42 PM PST by BRL
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To: sinkspur
We often don't agree--but, regarding FR, I believe you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

JimRob's FR is now a Powerful Voice in our land; FR MUST NOT be silenced!

Doc

1,974 posted on 11/29/2001 4:52:47 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Arator
You write:

I don't automatically assume that folks I meet are psycopaths. I like to take them on face value until they give me good reason not to. I'm kind of funny that way.

Me too. Me too.

Consider your post 519:

Like many other once-enthusiastic FReepers, I have no interest in posting (or donating) to FR as long as its present draconian regime of censorship, banishment, and general FReeper abuse continues.

You stated that you had no interest in posting. That was over 40 posts ago. What gives? For someone that seems so loathe to post on FR, you seem fairly unable to control yourself. I suggest that for all the faults of FR that you seem to have at the ready and willing to launch with deft precision, you are unable to exhibit any modicum of self-control.

How can that be? If the FR is so painful, so sad for you, then why continue to post? I advance the theory that you too, are in need of attention. One would not post they have no intention of posting and then make 40 more posts. Your fictive declarations diminish the quality of your arguments.

.

1,975 posted on 11/29/2001 4:53:18 PM PST by Fury
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To: Jim Robinson
Screw the critics and damn the enemies.
I'll double my monthly donation Jim.

Anybody who reads this thread, if you don't give now - do so today. FR is an entity like none other. I value it highly!

1,976 posted on 11/29/2001 4:54:22 PM PST by martian_22
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To: Jethro Tull
"Now, I don't trust anyone younger than 30..."

You're generous, I don't trust anyone under 50, especially if they attended govmnt skool!

1,977 posted on 11/29/2001 4:56:23 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Jim Robinson; backhoe
When I first saw this, I nearly became physically ill!!!! FR is my lifeline to reality. I live in a liberal hell-hole and don't think I could do without the conversation and debate regardless of the broad spectrum of ideals and the major disagreements.

I'm completely addicted to FR and wish I were able to send a boatload of money to help keep the site going. I'll send what I can.

And backhoe, thank you for the ping.

1,978 posted on 11/29/2001 4:56:26 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: sit-rep
The recent reduction in the quality of political debate here on FR is staggering. It started when GW took office and got worse.

Is Sit-rep.com still up? Ashamedly, I have not attempted to visit recently.

1,979 posted on 11/29/2001 4:56:31 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jethro Tull
Some crackpot moderator FReepmailed me two weeks ago threatening me with suspension.

I told h/she to butt off and then suspended myself for two weeks.

OK, all I want to know is how come YOU can get away with that and I can't? LOL.

I just came back Tuesday and was greeted with a rash of mindless vanities with titles like "What's the most popular baby name" or "Who are the single male Freepers."

Sad stuff...

Yea, sad indeed. FR is an intellectual moonscape compared to the FR of old. Ah, those were the days...

Oh yeah,one more thing,,,,

GO PAT GO!

Now, THAT'S the last straw. How dare you! I'm hitting the abuse button! You'll get yours, you'll see. Damn non-Republican. </ sarcasm>

1,980 posted on 11/29/2001 4:59:07 PM PST by Arator
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