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CIA blunder sparked Taleban revolt that became a mass suicide
thetimes.co.uk ^ | 11/28/2001 | OLIVER AUGUST

Posted on 11/28/2001 2:41:44 PM PST by KQQL

CIA blunder sparked Taleban revolt that became a mass suicide

OLIVER AUGUST WITNESSES A MASSACRE

'Michael asked one Taleban why he had come to Afghanistan. He said: 'We are here to kill you' and jumped at Michael, who shot him and three others before being wrestled to the ground'

WHETHER it was incompetence, overconfidence or duty that prompted two CIA operatives to interrogate dozens of Taleban on their own will perhaps remain a mystery. But their decision triggered a revolt that became the single bloodiest engagement since the Afghan war began.

The siege of Kala-i Janghi, the ancient mudbrick fortress near Mazar-i Sharif, ended yesterday when the last foreign Taleban of Konduz were wiped out.

It began on Sunday morning, when the estimated 800 foreign fighters — Arabs, Pakistanis, Chechens and terrorists of the al-Qaeda network — imprisoned in the old fort suddenly turned on their outnumbered Northern Alliance captors.

A witness said: “The fighting started when the Taleban were being questioned by two men from the CIA. They wanted to know where they had come from and whether they might be al-Qaeda.”

Both CIA operatives were dressed in Afghan robes, had grey beards and spoke Persian. One of them was known as Michael, the other as David.

Michael asked one Taleb why he had come to Afghanistan. He replied: “We’re here to kill you”, and jumped at Michael, who killed him and three others with his pistol before being wrestled to the ground.

The witness said: “The Taleban beat, kicked and bit him to death.”

David also killed at least one Taleb, but was then forced to flee. He said later: “There was no way of stopping them. They ran straight into gunfire.”

David sprinted out of the building where the prisoners were being interrogated and across a courtyard into the main building to call for help. He told his commander over a satellite phone: “I think Michael is dead.”

Now, after three days of US airstrikes, desperate resistance and continuous assault, the death-toll includes scores of Northern Alliance fighters and every one of the resisting prisoners.

In the swiftly minted military euphemism, this was an “uprising”, but it was also an act of mass suicide and, in the end, a slaughter: by Afghans, of “foreigners”, directed by Britons and Americans.

Yesterday the twisted bodies of the dead were littered around the gardens of Kala-i Janghi on the outskirts of Mazar-i Sharif, but just a week ago the Uzbek Northern Alliance leader General Abdul Rashid Dostum, the king of this castle, drank green tea under the trees with Mullah Faizal, the Taleban commander in Konduz. The two warlords discussed what to do about the Taleban’s fanatical “foreign legion”, trapped in Konduz.

It was agreed that the mullah and his Afghan Taleban fighters would be given safe passage after surrender, but the foreign fighters would be handed over to General Dostum. It is not clear whether Mullah Faizal had any idea what the notorious general intended to do with the Taleban’s foreign fanatics, or much cared. General Dostum, who uses the castle as a military base and to stable his horses, had decided to use it as a prison camp to clear a logjam of Taleban prisoners on the road between Konduz and Mazar-i Sharif.

On Saturday the foreigners duly surrendered in Konduz, laid down their weapons (at least in theory) and were taken into custody by General Dostum’s forces and driven to the fort outside Mazar-i Sharif. Some of the surrendering Taleban apparently agreed to travel to Mazar without resistance under the impression that they were about to attack it.

On arrival at the dusty fortress, at least two of the vehicles containing the Taleban were not searched, the first of a litany of bizarre mistakes by their jailers.

Some of the Taleban still carried weapons beneath their clothes as they were herded into the basement. Others were said to have been astonished and enraged to find themselves suddenly incarcerated. It was rumoured that the most extreme elements had wanted to be jailed in the fort, intending to try to seize it from within, and stage a last, suicidal stand.

General Dostum had allegedly given assurances that the prisoners would be not be mistreated, but there is no evidence that the captured Taleban expected to be treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention, or had a clue any such thing existed. Warfare in Afghanistan has its own, bloodier conventions.

On Saturday night, a Chechen prisoner approached a group of his Northern Alliance jailers, and detonated a hand grenade, killing himself, several other prisoners, and two Alliance commanders. But the main explosion did not take place until the CIA intervention on Sunday morning. Rebellion may also have been sparked by efforts to tie up the Taleban prisoners, many of whom apparently believed they were about to be killed. About 250 had been bound, according to one report, before the rest rebelled.

After killing Michael — whose body is still inside the camp, despite efforts by US special forces to retrieve it — the Taleban prisoners then overwhelmed the 20 Northern Alliance guards, killing them too; the skull of one was crushed with a rock.

The time was 11.20am. David telephoned the US Embassy in Uzbekistan on his satellite telephone: “We have lost control of the situation. Send in helicopters and troops.” The CIA agent had time to warn two Red Cross workers, who scrambled down the walls, as their vehicles inside were set alight by the rampaging prisoners.

The Taleban, armed with the guards’ weapons, then stormed the armoury. David estimated that the Taleban captured an initial batch of about 30 guns and then found two anti-tank weapons and two grenade launchers.

Within three hours of the “uprising”, US and British special forces arrived in Land Rovers, some in uniform and some in civilian clothes, and the battle to retake Kala-i Janghi began in earnest. Witnesses said it was quickly apparent that trained soldiers were taking part in the assault, as the ragged bursts of Alliance machine-gun fire were replaced by the steady single-shooting of marksmen.

The fight for control quickly enveloped most of the 19th-century castle. The Taleban were able to capture the south side, helped by the fact that only about 100 deeply nervous Northern Alliance soldiers were guarding the Taleban.

The witness said: “David asked his superiors for choppers to be brought in, as well as ground troops to get everyone out. They sent about 40 American soldiers, but the choppers were too far away in Uzbekistan. David’s people offered to bring in gunships and bomb the Taleban. They would flatten the whole castle and kill us all. David told them twice they shouldn’t do that. They were really pressing for airstrikes and after three hours they started. I have to say they were precise. They hit the target, or at least they didn’t hit us.”

The witness said: “David kept saying we have to get out of here before it gets dark or we will all die. We couldn’t look over the wall where the Taleban were. It was too dangerous to look. It was a very uncomfortable run, but we made it.”

The Northern Alliance gave no quarter. A few of the fainter-hearted Taleban managed to get out, and were swiftly put to death, according to witnesses. A pair of Taleban corpses could be seen propped in a gateway, each killed by a single bullet to the head.

That night an Alliance spokesman claimed that the fortress was under its control; nothing could have been further from the truth.

On Monday, the US intensified its bombardment and the Northern Alliance did not hide its intentions. “Those who are left over will be dead,” Alim Razim, General Dostum’s adviser, said.

But so far from the high-tech precision battle by highly trained special forces, the battle for the fort at times resembled something far more ancient, confused and inefficient. One “smart bomb” went astray, seriously wounding five US soldiers and killing and wounding a number of Northern Allaince troops.

The insurgents were thought to be led by Tahir Uldosh, a commander of the Uzbek revolutionary Islamic movement. But, in reality, no leader was necessary because the aims and orders of the Taleban resisters could hardly have been simpler: kill until you are killed.

By nightfall on Monday the Taleban, their numbers whittled down to perhaps 100 men, were still holding out. That night the smell of roasting meat wafted across the compound. The Taleban had killed a horse, for what would be, for all of them, a last meal.

Early yesterday, lorries carrying 200 Northern Alliance fighters and an anti-aircraft gun arrived at the fortress, as desert-camouflage-clad special forces troops moved in and United States warplanes circled above.

After a night of continuous bombardment by US gunships, the number of surviving Taleban was still further reduced, and by mid-morning the Northern Alliance had pushed the Taleban back into a large compound inside the PoW camp. One US special forces soldier called the bombing “fireworks you’ll never forget”. AC130 Spectre attack helicopters flew overhead five times, hovering and firing at close range.

The night-time raids left many bodies half-buried in the ground. Limbs and torsos rose out of the disturbed ground like tree trunks after a forest fire. The compound where the Taleban made their last stand was divided into two halves by a group of low buildings.

A tank attacked the western half of the compound, an exercise ground that now saw more vicious fighting than any young recruit could ever have imagined. By noon, the ground was littered with countless mangled bodies.

Next, the Northern Alliance moved into the compound’s eastern half, which was covered with trees, occasionally used by suicidal Taleban snipers. Surprisingly slowly for such an overwhelming force, the Alliance soldiers combed the greenery pockmarked with bodies.

They took no chances, or prisoners. One soldier fired a rocket-propelled grenade at a dead Taleban at close range.

One Taleban fighter, most likely Chechen, was still breathing as he lay in a ditch, his chest rising and falling. Junior Northern Alliance soldiers threw stones at his head.

When they saw dead Taleban, the Alliance soldiers would stop to take their shoes. Many Afghans have reported that the foreign Taleban fighters usually had the best equipment, apparently paid for by Osama bin Laden.

The soldiers would sit on the ground in the middle of a gunbattle casually unlacing a pair of boots or olive green trainers. When a commander saw them, he lashed them with a horse whip.

As soon as the Alliance soldiers had taken another Taleban position, they would use the newly captured weapons to pursue the next pocket. Piles of mortars, fuses and artillery pieces lay scattered among the bodies.

Alim Razim, General Dostum’s adviser, finally declared: “The situation is completely under control. All of them were killed.”

To clear the last pockets of Taleban resistance in the afternoon, Alliance soldiers approached the houses in the middle of the compound and fired at random into basement windows. Some 20-litre petrol cannisters were thrown in, then grenades.

As night fell once more, after three days of fighting, sporadic gunfire could still be heard; but these were celebrating Alliance troops, it seemed, for the guns on the other side had at last been silenced, and the Taleban killed to a man.


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CIA is never suppose to confirm the death of it's agent, or the presence of it's agents in a country.
81 posted on 11/28/2001 11:11:01 PM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
"I do not think the U.S. government is responsible for the fact that a bunch of religious fanatics decided to kill themselves."
Bill Clinton

82 posted on 11/28/2001 11:16:35 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Clinton's a rapist
we did them a favor and send them to allah and his 72 virgin goats ...
83 posted on 11/28/2001 11:20:29 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Ciexyz
Geraldo travels with forty armed guards, why can't our CIA people have the same contingent?

Because fewer people hate the CIA.

84 posted on 11/29/2001 1:08:04 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Abbalon
Vietnam was run by the CIA.

No,it wasn't. Just because the leftist media screamed this from the rooftops,it doesn't mean it was true. The VN war was a mismanaged (NOT "run") by the DNC and the elitist airheads in the US State Dept.The DNC didn't pull out until a Republican President was elected,and then with the aid of the media they tried to blame the whole war on him.

85 posted on 11/29/2001 1:11:51 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Etu Pluribus?

Maybe this guy made a mistake, but he was on OUR SIDE.

He deserves the benefit of the doubt.

86 posted on 11/29/2001 3:32:35 AM PST by LibKill
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To: KQQL
Associated Press
CIA officer Mike Spann, in this undated family photo, is the first American known to be killed in combat in Afghanistan. Johnny ``Mike'' Spann, 32, who entered the Marine Corps and then joined the CIA in June 1999, was killed in action during a prison riot at Mazar-e-Sharif. His body was recovered Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2001 the CIA said, without providing details on the circumstances of Spann's death. (AP Photo/Fanmily Photo via the CIA

87 posted on 11/29/2001 4:22:26 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: LibKill
"He deserves the benefit of the doubt."

The guy died for his country and I am grateful for his sacrifice. I would never last fifteen seconds in his situation.

But viewing this event through Patriotically Correct glasses will just get more American boys killed.

Here are the facts:

Imagine that: an American "intelligence" agent completely unprepared for an honest answer.

If you think about it honestly, the same mistake by American intelligence services is what lead to the World Trade Center atrocity.

88 posted on 11/29/2001 4:53:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the flag. I do not necessarily believe a whole lot of details from someone who calls an AC 130 Spectre gunship a helicopter.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

89 posted on 11/29/2001 6:15:09 AM PST by harpseal
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To: harpseal; sneakypete; Dan Day
Yeah, you have to weed out a lot of crap, but the facts that stand are still pretty amazing.

The main point to take from this is that these "foreign arab" fanatical jihadists are walking time bombs on a hair trigger to kill any Westerners they can get their hands on. It makes the killing of the 160 near Kandahar seem reasonable in context: these guys don't "surrender", they just regroup for the next attack, even if it is with one grenade, or their bare hands.

90 posted on 11/29/2001 7:59:55 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Totally agreed. Another point I would make is that it will do absolutely no good to even think of surrender to these Jihadists one need only look back to Somalia and the public statemewnts of the Taleban. IT seems they want war to the death so I guess thats it.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

91 posted on 11/29/2001 9:09:40 AM PST by harpseal
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To: harpseal
Give them what they desire: an express ticket to see allah.
92 posted on 11/29/2001 9:51:50 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Howlin; maica
The New York Times doesn't seem to be "with us."

Has it ever?

93 posted on 11/29/2001 4:24:50 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame
I know, but I had hoped after 9-11 they would get with the program. Foolish, I know.
94 posted on 11/29/2001 4:30:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: KQQL
Thanks Mike
96 posted on 11/29/2001 5:08:47 PM PST by Stand_Up
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To: Clinton's a rapist
""I do not think the U.S. government is responsible for the fact that a bunch of religious fanatics decided to kill themselves." Bill Clinton

Outstanding recall... I had forgotten that comment about Waco from the bastard.

That statement should be played back to every leftist crying about those dead bastards in Afghanistan.
Semper Fi

97 posted on 11/29/2001 8:45:00 PM PST by river rat
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To: D Joyce
I don't think we know the entire true story about how the scene was set, and where all the players were and what they were doing... Some stories indicate a Brit journalist wandering around started the kickoff to a firefight..... It's still not clear that the CIA fellow was performing recklessly. If you have seen a report that confirms his recklessness - I'd be interested in seeing it. I've heard some reports that "Mike" was a former Marine officer...giving strong indication he wasn't a fool.

However - I will agree with your comment as to the hazzard of having the field spooks anywhere near your your position in indian country".. A gunny once threaten to shoot an "advisor" if he ever approached the wire again.
Semper Fi

98 posted on 11/29/2001 8:54:41 PM PST by river rat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's really smart for two CIA cowboys to wade into the middle of a few dozen rabid prisoners of war and interrogate/insult them.After all, anybody superhuman enough to be a CIAbureaucrat is not subject to the same laws of physics or anything else as an ordinary human being.

Huh?? Let me see "insulting cowboys" and "bureaucrats"? Where do you get this stuff?? A man gave his life protecting this country and this is your response?

For the record, The prisoners were disarmed (supposedly) by the Northern Alliance. They were guarded by the Northern Alliance. They were in a prison controlled by Northern Alliance guards.

The CIA Men were brave enough to work with the Northern Alliance. The CIA entered the country before the Special Forces. Their duty demanded that they place themselves in danger. And they were willing to, because they love this country. I wish we had more of these "bureaucrats".

99 posted on 11/29/2001 9:25:57 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Abbalon
Vietnam was run by the CIA.

And all this time I thought that President Johnson had something to do with it.

100 posted on 11/29/2001 9:27:19 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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