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1 posted on 11/26/2001 9:33:40 AM PST by Aerial
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2 posted on 11/26/2001 9:36:25 AM PST by sheltonmac
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Comments?
3 posted on 11/26/2001 9:36:29 AM PST by Aerial
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bump for later reading
4 posted on 11/26/2001 9:40:02 AM PST by lelio
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If a Christian AG will stop a Waco investigation, and imprision jews, what hope is there for a free America? There is only one religion permitted in America: the State.

The Israelis claimed last night they were deliberately kept with Arab and Moslem prisoners, who beat them badly, and that they were deprived of food and basic sleeping and toilet conditions.

Their imprisonment was extremely traumatic and has left physical and emotional scars, the JERUSALEM POST reported in Sunday editions.

The five Jews, who worked for a New Jersey moving company, said that they were arrested in a security sweep, after neighbors reported them to the authorities when they heard them speaking Hebrew and thought it was Arabic and that they were somehow tied to the terror attack.

It was reported they were picked up after they photographed themselves smiling against the backdrop of the burning Trade buildings.

The five have retained a lawyer in the United States to file a lawsuit for the treatment they received in jail.

Developing...


7 posted on 11/26/2001 9:58:42 AM PST by Israel
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To: Aerial; *libertarians; *bang_list
"two esteemed Libertarian thinkers like Kopel and Blackman "

A, Yeh. Right! But then again, maybe they're part of the "Socialist Libertarian" movement. Peace and love, George.

10 posted on 11/26/2001 10:26:40 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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its very bad news that National Review OnLine would carry such a piece.

If you take the time to look at the actual evidence regarding the Waco events, then there is no way to escape the conclusion that these people were murdered in a purposeful campaign orchestrated by our own government.

Regardless of the evidence many people go along with the government effort to treat this group of people as sub-human. It demonstrates very clearly how evil ordinary people can be. We are a people who so look down upon our own ancestors for past injustices, both real and imagined, but at the same time we commit the most terrible offenses ourselves and then simply lie to cover up over it.

11 posted on 11/26/2001 10:29:33 AM PST by Red Jones
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FYI--

-Index of Waco articles--

-Index of Waco Archives articles--

17 posted on 11/26/2001 10:55:57 AM PST by backhoe
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Good intentions gone awry once more. Kopel should be ashamed of himself.
22 posted on 11/26/2001 12:09:54 PM PST by Demidog
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24 posted on 11/26/2001 1:06:40 PM PST by RaceBannon
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Those poor little children; the government treated them like crap. For victory & freedom!!!
27 posted on 11/26/2001 1:19:36 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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38 posted on 11/26/2001 8:48:21 PM PST by Aurelius
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Posted 10:33 AM and still up? Amazing. These days (Post Sept. 11) for anything even vaguely anti-GOV to survive that long has to be a near record.
39 posted on 11/26/2001 8:53:04 PM PST by Aurelius
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Hmmmm.... just WHO was Governor of the State of Texas at the time of Waco???

redrock

58 posted on 11/26/2001 9:48:26 PM PST by redrock
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A cursory examination of the evidence indicates that if anyone was preparing for a violent confrontation it was ATF. In the weeks leading up to the blundered raid, agency officials were openly soliciting the assistance of military officials and the use of the Army Urban Terrain facility at Ft. Hood, TX. It is now known that these tactical preparations directly contradicted the express wishes of then US Attorney William Johnston who, according to the Treasury Department report "informed ATF early in the investigation that he would not authorize a search warrant" for the Davidian property "if it was to be executed through a siege-style operation."

A more careful examination of the evidence would reveal that it was Johnston himself who authorized the lightning raid that resulted in the deaths of the ATF agents. The responsibility for the deaths was laid at the feet of the ATF raiders themselves during the 1995 Congressional investigation.

Not mentioned in this article was that neither the ATF or the FBI produced a single shread of evidence either before or after the raid to support the claims made to obtain the original search and seizure warrant. There was no illegal meth lab on the premises. In fact, the congressional investigation shows that the ATF "lied" to the US Army in order to gain their cooperation. Nor were the Davidians illegally manufacturing what the ATF termed to be "Sten" or "grease guns". Neither agency has produced a single example of an "machine gun" illegally manufactured at Mt. Carmel either before or during the 51 day siege.

Sure, the feds made a big show during the congressional investigation, but when it came time to have Failure Analysis, Inc. examine the supposed machine guns to determine if they'd been modified prior to the time of the fire, the FBI slithered under their rocks and failed to supply examples of their "evidence" to support their claims.

FBI Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) footage also provides documentary evidence that government forces were spraying the building with automatic weapon fire as the structure became engulfed in flames. Although the Bureau have repeatedly denied that its agents fired so much as a single shot during the stand off and its culmination, several examinations of the contested tape by no less than a half-dozen highly-credible experts dispute this contention.

Unfortunately too much importance has been placed on the FLIR evidence. Not surprisingly, when the physical evidence is examined, the claims made by McNulty & Co. in his videos evaporate. The words, "spraying the building with automatic weapon fire" implies that bullets were flying everywhere into the building. Yet, a careful examination of the video footage of the concrete building still standing after the fire shows that not a single bullet struck it.

By arguing the FLIR "evidence", the real physical evidence of the government's crimes that is the condition of the bodies is convienently ignored. (Waco: A New Revelation)

dan

59 posted on 11/26/2001 10:14:17 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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Interesting how President Bubba had no problem attacking the religious beliefs of the Branch Davidians in light of the PC world we live in now.
90 posted on 11/27/2001 8:40:02 PM PST by ladyinred
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Another mis-informed little opinion-piece utilizing selelective little 'factoids' carefully picked from the whole for the reason that they can be interpreted to reinforce a pre-conceived mindset and draw the *usual* audience ...

... all from from the likes of LoserRockwell.com whose 'hit' numbers must certainly be falling after all the negative knocks they receive here on FR ...

125 posted on 11/28/2001 5:15:38 PM PST by _Jim
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For you Libs life might start at Waco, for us conservatives life started about 2000 years ago with a crucifiction.
153 posted on 11/30/2001 2:34:55 PM PST by exnavy
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BTTT!!!!!!!!!
173 posted on 12/15/2001 10:26:46 AM PST by eazdzit
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