Okay folks, Posted on 11/26/2001 8:11:00 AM PST by section9
Okay folks,
Over the last couple of days we've been seeing Condi Rice articles posted from the BBC and from some liberal reporter in Detroit who opined that it was now "okay" for black liberals to feel proud of Condi Rice.
Well, much to the chagrin of JJ, Queasy, and Maxine Waters, I'm here to tell you that Condi has made the breakthrough past the gatekeepers and into the Community. Here's how I knew she beat the libs...
Okay, some of you folks, both black and white, have seen the variations of the "I hava a Dream" t-shirt that black men and women wear from time to time. Well, yesterday I saw a woman wearing a t-shirt with the Usual Suspects (Dr. King, Rosa Parks, Shirley Chisolm, ...no sign of Malcolm, however) on the back and believed that it was your standard Salute to Black Heritage. Well imagine my surprise when I walked around to the front of this customer. She was looking at a refrigerator at the time and lo and behold, there's a picture of Colin Powell and Condi Rice in the front! It had a legend on the top, something like "carry on the tradition, etc....). Unfortunately, there were also pictures of Ron Brown and Tavis Smiley there, but what seemed important is that it is politically acceptable within the black community to support the likes of Condi.
This is anecdotal information, to be sure, but it is a good sign for the future. Little things like this tell me that Condi has a lot more support in the black community that is generally understood by the leadership.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
The majority of working women I know who are of African descent are real dynamos, and they appreciate the fact that Condi not only works hard, she also looks good doing it!
Well, I'm not surprised that you'd say that about the "sistahs", but the fact is, they went wildly for Gore. In point of fact, other than Condi, I can't think of one black woman of prominence who voted for Bush in 2000. As Condi rises in notoriety, it will be amongst the sisters that she begins to cleave into the Democratic Party's hold on the black community. You're right, black women do admire the pluck of an iron lady like Rice. It contrasts with a lot of the "player" attitude that they have to put up with as they try against great odds to raise young men and women to be responsible adults.
It will be interesting to see.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
I can't help but think the black community will come around. Bush has been very good to them (reality) though they keep being told by the DemocRATS that he disenfranchised them (fantasy)
But how do you expect to win without me; someone who supports mainstream Republican principles, like the inalienable Right to Life? No matter how attractive the candidate, if they are pro-abortion, like Condi, they are NOT going to win the Republican nomination for President, or for VP.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is just a fact.
Your enthusiasm is admirable, nonetheless.
So what you're saying is that the Democrats will win.
When Reagan was proven correct and the rest of us wrong, Condi didn't hesitate to admit her error and lavish praise on Reagan for his optimism and foresight. How many experts or politicians ever do that? They always have a "yes but" in there somewhere. Condi didn't. She is a woman of rock solid intergrity.
You may pick up a few percentage points in the place you are pointing. Maybe.But how do you expect to win without me; someone who supports mainstream Republican principles, like the inalienable Right to Life? No matter how attractive the candidate, if they are pro-abortion, like Condi, they are NOT going to win the Republican nomination for President, or for VP.
I don't give a rat's ass about the black vote, Eternal. We could run Christ the Righteous and we'd still lose the black community to a Hitler/Himmler ticket as long as the Germans had a "D" by their name. You're right, we'll get a few percentage points. But that's not what scares the Democrats.
The last thing Condi Rice would do is attack the Republican Base, like that idiot McCain did. Add to this fact the reality that she would have the imprimatur of the Bush family and the support of most Republicans, including most conservative Christians, accross the country, and you have a winning candidate. Still want to hang out with Alan Keyes? Fine, I respect that. But I want to beat Democrats. Period. I want to beat them like a drum. And if I have to compromise my pro-life sentiments to do that, than so be it. Believe me, once she started to build up a head of steam in the primaries, the Reverend Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and James Dobson would come to her.
And the four of them would come to an understanding. Why? Because Falwell, Robertson, and Dobson know as I do that the alternative would be the Hildebeast.
Once Rice is appointed VP, which she will be (Tom Ridge was the favorite. Not any more....), she's a shoo-in for nomination for '08. Indeed, she could probably win the nomination in her own right without Bush's help, such are her debating and personality skills. Then you have a choice, Eternal Vigilance. Stick with your party and move to have as many pro-life conservatives installed in the campaign apparatus as possible or sit out the election and watch the Hildebeast institute even looser rules in favor of abortion on demand, press censorship, firearms confiscation, abolition of the Electoral College, and evisceration of the 10th Amendment.
Now why don't you just assess where you are, here. I'm as pro-life as you are, but not to the exclusion of political victory. If I have to compromise now to win later, I will do that. You want no compromise now. It is inevitable, therefore, that you will lose later. Remember, even Reagan compromised to get to the promised land.
Conservatives have to understand that salami tactics can work for the right as well as the left. When Condi says that she's "mildly" pro-choice, that's code for being with Bush's position on partial birth and parental notification. The fact that she's a libertarian on most issues should count in her favor. Sure, I wish she was as opposed to abortion as you and I are, but I'll take that half a loaf and run with it, and we'll win.
Or I could support Alan Keyes and get 1% of the vote. It's an easy choice. Take my 1% or get the white soccer mom vote in a landslide. We kill the Rats among white females, which is the true battleground, and we smear their Rat asses from sea to shining sea. Period. We are this close to political domination.
Hate to burst your bubble, but there is simply no one else out there besides Condi Rice. I want to beat the likes of John Edwards into the ground. I want to send the Hildebeast and her like off to a deserved retirement like scalded yellow dogs. No one can do that for us except Condi. No one. Condi has the magic. You don't see that in many politicians. Once in a generation, perhaps. The Rats got lucky in that they found one in Clinton. We have the opportunity to find an honest version in Rice.
Victory or deafeat, Eternal. Half a loaf or none at all. That's politics.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Absolutely.
If the Republican Party is stupid enough to sell out it's pro-life base, it will implode.
And the Republic will suffer for it.
Except for the fact that she believes in and empowers the abortion trade.
I would say that disagreeing with the most important plank in the Republican platform is a pretty big crack in the rock.
And if the Republicans will choose a second-stringer over someone like Condi Rice solely on the basis of the abortion issue, it will also implode.
Looks to me like the one-plank platform has given us a one-party system. Even Hillary could win.
"I don't give a rat's ass about the black vote...
It's high time people quit worrying about 'the black vote', and quit giving race any prominence at all. It's principle that counts, not skin pigment.
..she would have the imprimatur of the Bush family..
Perhaps. But that is simply an assumption on your part.
...and the support of most Republicans, including most conservative Christians, accross the country..
You aver that as though it were true just because you say so, but that is exactly where you and I disagree, obviously. The only way your theory is going to be put to the test is for Condi Rice to enter the primaries.
You don't just snap your fingers and win the Iowa Caucus' Chris.
Pro-life conservatives control the process, and would end their own political careers by supporting a 'pro-choice' candidate if they were unprincipled, and stupid, enough to do so.
Still want to hang out with Alan Keyes? Fine, I respect that.
Actually, I don't, but thanks for asking.
But I want to beat Democrats. Period.
You need higher aspirations, then.
And if I have to compromise my pro-life sentiments to do that, than so be it.
That's your problem, Chris...they are 'sentiments', and not principles. As for me, I will never ever support someone who not only believes abortion is ok, but who politically empowers the genocide of 40 million Americans (and counting).
Believe me, once she started to build up a head of steam in the primaries, the Reverend Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and James Dobson would come to her.
I don't believe you, because you're blowing smoke. In fact, I'm laughing at you for your ignorance of the politics of the GOP. Jim Dobson, especially, will support a pro-abortion candidate about the same time the lakes in hell freeze solid.
Once Rice is appointed VP, which she will be (Tom Ridge was the favorite. Not any more....), she's a shoo-in for nomination for '08.
Someone who was really really ignorant might think you had inside knowledge of these matters, since you speak with such certitude. Say hello to Karl for me, ok Chris? /sarcasm
Indeed, she could probably win the nomination in her own right without Bush's help, such are her debating and personality skills.
Spoken like a true enthusiast. Catch your breath, man.
Then you have a choice, Eternal Vigilance. Stick with your party and move to have as many pro-life conservatives installed in the campaign apparatus as possible or sit out the election and watch the Hildebeast institute even looser rules in favor of abortion on demand, press censorship, firearms confiscation, abolition of the Electoral College, and evisceration of the 10th Amendment.
Or I could ::gasp:: support someone else, someone who actually is in agreement with Republican principles. You paint a desperate picture, based on an appeal to fear...no thanks, Chris.
I'm as pro-life as you are...
No you're not. You have a sentiment. I have a principle. You will compromise your sentiment for your perceived utilitarian purpose. I will never compromise the principle of the inalienable Right to Life. Ever.
...but not to the exclusion of political victory.
There are more important things than political victory. The sooner you learn that, the better.
If I have to compromise now to win later, I will do that.
The problem is that those who compromise with evil almost never get the opportunity to rectify that compromise. The evil overcomes and destroys them.
You want no compromise now. It is inevitable, therefore, that you will lose later.
That, sir, is a non sequiter. It just doesn't follow.
We are this close to political domination.
If that is your burning obsession, unmoored by bedrock principles that can't be compromised, I shudder at the sight of the shipwreck that is coming. Even if you succeed, what will you have left, when the fundamental principles of life and liberty have been compromised away?
I'm sorry, but your version of victory looks like defeat before you've ever started.
Or are you just gratuitously attacking me because I once supported Alan Keyes?
That's funny, considering the fact that you yourself once supported the Ambassador.
Since then it has given us control of the Congress for the first time in a generation...(at least until the pro-abortion traitor Jeffords sold the Party down the river).
And it gave us the Bush presidency. In case you haven't noticed, the vast majority of the Party's base is adamantly pro-life.
It's obvious where your bias' lie. If you hate pro-lifers and Christians so much, perhaps you would feel more comfortable in the Dem fold...they have perfected those hatreds to an artform.
Why wouldn't they? She's a black liberal.
Hehehe...
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