Posted on 11/24/2001 8:32:51 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
Full Interview with Holocaust Survivor, Theodore Haas
"Anti-gunownership politicians are very dangerous to a free society. Liberty and freedom can only be preserved by an armed citizenry. I see creeping fascism in America, just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a law there, all supposedly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny often masquerades as doing good. This is the technique the Liberal politicians/Liberal media alliance are using to enslave America.
Q.) What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations and individuals who want America disarmed?
A.) Their ignorance is pitiful -- their lives have been too easy. Had they experienced Dachau, they would have a better idea of how precious freedom is. These leftist should leave America. These Sarah Brady types must be educated to under-stand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a dictatorship has not yet happened in America. These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to Liberty than street criminals or foreign spies.
Q.) Some concentration camp survivors are opposed to gun ownership. What message would you like to share with them?
A.) I would like to say, "You cowards; you gun haters, you don't deserve to live in America. Go live in the Soviet Union, if you love gun control so d--- much." It was the stupidity of these naive fools that aided and abetted Hitler's goons and thugs. Anti-gunownership Holocaust survivors insult the memories of all those that needlessly perished for lack of being able to adequately defend themselves.
COMMUNIST EXPLOITATION OF RELIGION - Richard Wurmbrand - From Hell To Heaven
"A little lion in its first days you can play with him just like with a puppy. When he becomes great, only then he is a lion. Yugoslavian communism is this little communism. And American communism a very little one and English communism is a very little one. When they grow, when they can do whatever they will to do, then only we can see them With us, in the beginning, we also had a very nice communism. I have seen in Rumanian Communist demonstrations signs with the slogan, "God save the King." I have seen the communist Secretaries of State making great crosses, showing themselves as being on the side of religion and making compliments to religion and bowing to religion and saying they are Democrats. In the beginning, they have put in prison party members who said that the agriculture must be collectivized. And they have gone together with the bourgeois party, with the Liberal Party of Tatorescu and with other Democrats.
I have seen in the West Social Democrats collaborate with them. In Rumania, I have seen dying Social Democrats in the same cell with me; they died. Communists in Rumania, too, were nice until they had the whole power in hand. When they had the whole power in hand, they have done things exactly as in Russia, and so they will do everywhere. There is no difference.
...In Philadelphia there was a great meeting. A pastor with clerical suit, a Presbyterian pastor, delivered a speech in which he praised Communists and said that Communists are all right and it is stupid to fight against them. I have learned something from the Communists. In a minute - after - the pastor was no more in the pulpit, I was in the pulpit. I said: "Now I will speak about communism. What do you know about communism? And I will show you my credentials, how I have studied communism." I undressed myself to the belt. I did not know that all these bad reporters are there and took pictures. And I showed them my body. "That is what Communists do to Christians, and you, Pastor, why don't you make demonstrations, if you are a Christian and if you have youth in you and vigor, why don't you demonstrate before the Soviet and Rumanian Embassies and the other embassies against torturing Christians?" And then the public, which has been there booed him and shouted to him "Judas."
Nope. I'm telling you that if someone makes a product to prevent something, that there is a reason for it. Do you think it's only our government that spys on us? Or are they spying on those that spy on us? If that happens aren't they spying on us by default? Do agents get overzealous? Are some of them corrupt, or working as double agents? You bet, all these things and more occur. So even if our government stayed out of it all together, would you be safe? Nope.
Hence the ultimate responsibility for your privacy is yours not the government's. We have a God given right to that, but the government can't, nor has it ever been able to protect that for the individual. In short it is and always has been up to you.
Are we to trust bureaucrats in the the government who say what they are doing is alright because they tell us they are in the government and know what is best??
Nope. Government is the absolute worst way to do anything, they never know best, and they amplify the faults of the men that populate them.
When you tell us that what they have been doing has not hurt us, it does not help. In fact your reasoning makes the conduct of those in government look worse to me.
What I am saying is be aware, if someone makes a product to protect you from something, then there is a valid reason for it's existance. PGP is at least 20 years old, I knew a guy using it in 1981 on an XT for his banking transactions in the Carribean. I believe it was version 1.8 or 2.0 so it had been in existance for a while even then.
It is much worse than you want us to believe because they did not tell us they were snopping on all of us innocent civilians (presumed guitly until proven innocent by their corrupt definition??)and more importantly THEY DID NOT ASK OUR PERMISSION in violation of the Constitution and our unalienable, God given rights of privacy.
The government is the least of the threats to your rights. It could really care less, unless it finds you involved in criminal activity.
Have you ever thought this out all the way? How is the government to know who is innocent, or guilty unless they monitor covertly? It's common sense, really! If they are required to alert a "suspect"(whoops that would mean they had already monitored him somehow) that they are going to be monitoring him. What would happen? Nothing, unless he is incredibly stupid. No, it's a given, they must snoop somehow, someway, to determine innocence or guilt. Hopefully, they do so without malice, or motives other than catching bad guys, but that is not always the case, as we live in a world of Freewill with Satan seeking to devour any and all he can.
Thank you for your prayer, it has already been answered, and is daily, no need to wait for Christmas, or even tomorrow. Put your trust in God, he's the only one that is deserving of it, all others are fickle at best, including yourself.
You seem to be intelligent and informed, but this statement make me want to say, "You must be new here."
Hey Unc Bill -What ever happened to all those Y2K internment camps?
How come nothing ever came out of that event?
Are you here just here to scare people?
How come *nothing* of which you write comes about?
Hence the ultimate responsibility for your privacy is yours not the government's.Very well said.We have a God given right to that, but the government can't, nor has it ever been able to protect that for the individual.
In short it is and always has been up to you.
Also well beyond the comprehension level of most of those here ...
(NOTE that most of those grousing here in this thread are the SAME ones who ADVOCATE the exercise of their Second Amendment rights for their personal safety YET they will sit like ducks and NOT make use of privacy software like PGP ...)
Just curious, do you send your confidential snail mail with no envelope? Does doing so send a red flag to the government(other than telling them you are an idiot)? Nope, and neither does PGP. There is lots of debate over whether or not PGP draws unwarranted attention to you or not. The government and lots of corporations use it, and you'll hardly stand out unless you use the highest levels of encryption. Even then, it may very well be that the reverse is true....why bother with the smart folks using encryption when the vast majority of folks plaster anything and everything in the open for all(hacker, corp or gov spys, etc.) to see.
But that's not why I and everyone else should use PGP. It's primarily an envelope(to keep every yahoo in the data stream from reading it), with the same legal protection as a paper envelope. But, in addition to that, you can be almost certain that only someone with your key can read it. Will it keep someone that wants to read your correspondance from doing so? Probably not, but they have to be highly motivated and have the resources to do so.
Another thing to consider is that not only our government is in the spy business, other governments, terrorist, hackers, corporations, and others are as well, and while most of them don't have the resources that the government has, they are every bit as dangerous if not more so.
I've been using PGP casually for about 4 years, mainly just to learn how to do it, and to converse with a friend or two in California that use it for all their communications. I'm observant and I haven't seen any monitoring, but I too, like the vast majority of folks, have nothing to hide.
Ashcroft required that the FBI have evidence of wrongdoing before they could arrest or view of the contents of the PCs of middle-eastern terrorists. How is it that we do not have the same rights?
I think you do have those rights, and if they are inalienable rights, so do they, unfortunately.
Maybe you need to ask yourself...Is a right not realized still a right? If you send communications with no envelope did you mean for everyone or anyone that handled it along the way to read it? You may not have...but they will.
I guess you missed the point. There was ABSOLUTE TERROR in some quarters right here on FR - talk of a gov't takeover of utilities, transportation and media, the internment plans for citizens AND pictures of those 'Y2K Internment Camps' posted right here on FR!
There was MUCH DISCUSSION about X-42, Der Schlickmeister, Herr Xlintoon declaring MARTIAL LAW to implement all this - and it DIDN'T HAPPEN!
So much for the scare-meisters (like Uncle Bill - who posted A LOT of such articles, TONS of references and the most dire interpretations of some fairly 'routine' EO's ) -
- attempting to gain exposure and 'a name' for themselves by posting such crap ... at the expense of clogging up internet bandwidth for more important issues about which we can do something about (like SHRINKING the size and scope of the federal and even state government) ...
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"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams (1780)
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