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The Smoking Gun of AIDS: a 1971 Flowchart ^^could this be true?^^
http://www.boydgraves.com ^ | December 6, 2000 | by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.

Posted on 11/23/2001 1:41:24 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Another thing I wonder his Jim's explanation for the orange RDX chemical found on seat cushions in the wreckage. I wonder if he can comprehend how difficult it is to manufacture that US grade military explosive? I heard the head investigator fess up about the RDX chemical to Trafficant in an early hearing. True, Trafficant later said it wasn't a coverup. But I think they convinced Trafficant that it's best not to give terrorists credit for any kills. It's a powerful argument. Freegards....

My opinion is that it was not a terrorist attack, but that they convinced enquiring Congress Critters that it was. The lack of reaction by naval vessels in the area, and the position of the triangulated firing sites well outside of the area where flights could be expected to be within range, would preclude a terrorist attack with MANPADS. The friendly fire explanations are more logical.

61 posted on 12/06/2001 11:12:00 AM PST by Excuse_Me
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Gee, the plug in to download the readable flowchart did not initialize properly.
Imagine that; can't see the flowchart, guess I'll have to take the tinfoil brigade's word for it.

Darn.

62 posted on 12/06/2001 11:18:02 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Another thing I wonder his Jim's explanation for the orange RDX chemical found on seat cushions in the wreckage.

You apparently have me confused with somebody else who may have taken issue with this particular point.

Unless you can find a specific post on a thread here at FR you are either:

  1. hallucinating or
  2. making things up.

63 posted on 12/06/2001 3:07:16 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Excuse_Me
But, since I know you can't look it up, JP-4 is a military fuel which is much more volatile than Jet A, and so the Iranian Jet, which was hit by lightning may have exploded due to a wing tank, but TWA800 had only Jet A on board.

Similar engines/engine designs in similar applications (climate/aircraft use) require/can use similar specified, approved types of fuel ... unless you have experience working for an engine manufacturer like GE, Rolls Royce or Pratt and Whitney I'm not going to pay you much mind on this particular subject ...

64 posted on 12/06/2001 3:13:35 PM PST by _Jim
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; *tinfoilhat
AP, I hope you are posting this for humor.

"selectively kills"?

AIDS will kill anyone and anyone who engages in needle sharing or other high risk activity (won't describe, too gross) is sooner or later going to die from it.

65 posted on 12/06/2001 3:17:20 PM PST by LibKill
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Boyd E. Graves, J.D.

Probably strictly for the boyds. What is "J.D", anyway? But must have this flowchart for my MIB wall :)).

66 posted on 12/06/2001 3:20:18 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
A plot to kill blacks? I don't think so.
DemocRATS were in power in 1977, and they love that black vote.

To get rid of faggots - well maybe.

67 posted on 12/06/2001 3:37:53 PM PST by Bill Rice
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To: LibKill
AIDS will kill anyone and anyone who engages in needle sharing

Not if they're encased in a two-inch layer of tinfoil. Actually, that will stop not only needle sharing but also any other contamination.

68 posted on 12/06/2001 3:44:23 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: _Jim
unless you have experience working for an engine manufacturer like GE, Rolls Royce or Pratt and Whitney I'm not going to pay you much mind on this particular subject ...

Well, _Jim do you have the above experience?

If not, why should anyone pay your posts any attention?

69 posted on 12/06/2001 4:03:54 PM PST by razorback-bert
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Well, _Jim do you have the above experience?

The difference here is, I will either do the research, consult and defer to those who *do* have the experience and background and have done the research or I will keep quiet on the particular subject about which I have not yet studied ...

All concepts foreign to the tin-foilers who have neither the time, the will power, or the mind to do any of those things.

70 posted on 12/06/2001 5:04:24 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Similar engines/engine designs in similar applications (climate/aircraft use) require/can use similar specified, approved types of fuel ... unless you have experience working for an engine manufacturer like GE, Rolls Royce or Pratt and Whitney I'm not going to pay you much mind on this particular subject ...

If this is supposed to mean that they could have used JP-4 in Flight 800, they didn't. The NTSB would not have spent $40 million dollars trying to get Jet A to explode under the conditions they stated were involved in the crash, if it had been using the more volatile JP-4. They failed to make it happen and instead blew up the tank using hydrogen gas and propane to start the reaction, with a spark 63,000 times the energy of the spark they stated in their report would be sufficient.

If the center tank was the initiating event as stated, why do the scorch marks end at the break in the fuselage? Why were none of the bodies burned, but 89 had shrapnel removed, and then confiscsated by the FBI? Why was a portion of the front wing spar CW504 found in the earliest debris field, while the portions of crossbeam #3 were found with the CWT in the final debris? On the 747-131 model the CWT ended at crossbeam #3, and the front wing spar was in front of a maintenance walkway, with no fuel behind it. When this plane was hit by lightning in June of 1995 in Rome, why didn't the faulty wiring cause the CWT to explode then, since it took them a week to repair the wing damage then? What caused the external to internal punctures of the CWT at speeds exceeding 1000 ft/sec by small objects, and why would that not be considered a probable cause of the CWT explosion? Why did early photos of the wreckage show the fuel tank floor had been pushed upward by 7 feet, and later photos show it having been pounded back down? (Senate testimony indicates that metal portions of the plane were being pounded into place.)

_Jim, I really don't care if you aren't going to pay me much mind, since you don't have much to spare. I would appreciate it if you didn't expound on subjects with which you are not familiar.

71 posted on 12/06/2001 9:22:05 PM PST by Excuse_Me
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To: Excuse_Me
I think the tin foil hat belongs on the pro-establishment sheep. They scarf up any way-out theory the government tosses their way. I have no opinion about this flow chart report, but using TWA 800 as an example of 'conspiracy theory silliness' is a dim bulb idea. I wonder if a flock of birds caused TWA 800 to crash? Or perhaps it was air currents? LOL.
72 posted on 12/07/2001 9:52:44 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Darn! I'm all out of Tin Foil from an earlier post. I guess the mind control rays will get me, and I'll become a Dimocrat.
73 posted on 12/07/2001 9:55:55 AM PST by Destructor
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To: _Jim
I just asked a question. And now I am wondering if you are following the tradition of Clinton, attempt to discredit the other guy rather than address troublesome details. Doesn't it amaze you that that RDX chemical was found in the plane? An explosives chemical? Two people were put in jail for taking samples of that chemical and exposing it to the public in a best selling book. If anyone truly deserves a pardon....

Not to mention, the pro-government sheeple who buy the government line on TWA 800 deserve tin foil hats with propeller tops. Seriously, one has to be way out there to think the government is saying the truth about it, unless one is highly uninformed.

74 posted on 12/07/2001 10:01:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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