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Suspect accused of vandalizing Confederate flag in Mizzou dorm
STL Today ^ | 11/21/2001 11:19 AM | ap

Posted on 11/21/2001 11:54:19 AM PST by shuckmaster

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:33:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- Police at the University of Missouri have arrested a student suspected of destroying a Confederate flag in a dorm room.

Dave Sierpina, 18, of Aurora, Ill., was arrested on suspicion of second-degree burglary and property damage.


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To: shuckmaster
PC morons, liberal cowards, and the "defenders" of oppressed minorities reveal themselves for what they truly are; petty bigot thugs who exemplify everything they claim southerners supposedly represent. A crime is crime is a crime, regardless of the "intentions" of the criminal.
181 posted on 11/28/2001 11:50:32 AM PST by rebelsoldier
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To: shuckmaster
Obviously the dude won't make it as member of the KA's with misbehaviour like that, but then again he's probably a baggy pant-underwear showing hiphopster wannabe.
182 posted on 11/28/2001 12:04:02 PM PST by Basil314
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To: thefactor
Merry Christmas to you, brother. New York is a great state, where I was priviliged to work for a few months this summer.
183 posted on 11/28/2001 3:02:46 PM PST by wku man
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To: #3Fan
Reading the Constitution makes my commitment to the South stronger. Please write your representatives and request they read the Constitution instead of walking on like they do almost daily.
184 posted on 11/28/2001 3:35:46 PM PST by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
Please write your representatives and request they read the Constitution instead of walking on like they do almost daily.

Good idea.

185 posted on 11/29/2001 5:32:35 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
according to THE LIBERATOR in 1865 there were more slaves in the north than there had been in 1860. therefore you damnyankees were hardly "ramping down the number of slaves" in YOUR states.

BTW, General Benjamin Butler of the damnyankee army was SELLING captured slaves on the New Orleans slave block in 1863! MOST of the slaves sold were either free men & women OR CSA soldiers, who had been captured. 1/5 of the sale price went to the auctioneer (a union colonel-this is why auctioneers are called colonel today!), 1/5 to Gen Butler and the other 3/5 to the damnyankee army.

face it #3, the damnyankees were ALWAYS hypocrytes and scum. nothing more nothing less.

186 posted on 12/03/2001 9:41:16 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
BTW, General Benjamin Butler of the damnyankee army was SELLING captured slaves on the New Orleans slave block in 1863! MOST of the slaves sold were either free men & women OR CSA soldiers, who had been captured. 1/5 of the sale price went to the auctioneer (a union colonel-this is why auctioneers are called colonel today!), 1/5 to Gen Butler and the other 3/5 to the damnyankee army.

I assume that you have some evidence of this? As well as the claim that there were more slaves up north in 1865 than there were in 1860.

187 posted on 12/03/2001 9:48:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: CWRWinger
Reading the Constitution makes my commitment to the South stronger.

Agreed!

188 posted on 12/03/2001 9:53:44 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Non-Sequitur
may i suggest that you call/write the New Orleans Confederate Museum and ask if they will send you the list of sold slaves & perhaps the names and union army service numbers of the auctioneers. the last time i was there in 1990, the records were on display for all to see.

once more, i'm not going to spend what little free time i have chasing down references for you, as no matter what reference i post you wouldn't believe the source. in one case (was it you?) last year, a freeper said that the official service records at the US ARCHIVES were southron dominated and not to be believed. that particuliar stupidity ASSURED that i'd never do research on request of ANYONE on the forum, without charging my usual reasearch fee = $ 60.00/hour (what i charge to commercial clients to do family searches.)

189 posted on 12/03/2001 10:00:01 AM PST by stand watie
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To: CWRWinger
race relations were far better than in the north;

I've heard this many times before. Co-worker just moved from N.H. & said b/w relations are worse up there. family lived in PA for a while. klan held meetings at the local school (after-hours of course).

most folks overlook the fact that the largest klan organization is in the NORTH today (PA).

190 posted on 12/03/2001 10:09:28 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stand watie
So you have no evidence. I should have known that, based on your past posts, but it never hurts to double check.
191 posted on 12/03/2001 10:20:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
most folks overlook the fact that the largest klan organization is in the NORTH today (PA).

What do you base that on?

192 posted on 12/03/2001 10:21:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
If your are referring to the Memorial Hall Civil War Museum in New Orleans then I believe that once again you are displaying your active imagination and lack of accuracy. On their website the museum mentions their collection of items relating to General Butler's term as commander of the military occupation. They mention that they have copies of Butler's General Order #1 and #28 as well as items relating to the execution of William Mumford. If evidence that you describe did exist then it is likely that they would mention that in their website as well.
193 posted on 12/03/2001 10:29:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
the causes of the WBTS are MANY; the main one was/is seeking LIBERTY. true then, true now.

Freedom like a child in a sandbox, maybe.

Hey, does it cost FreeRepublic to run more bandwidth to support this neo-con drivel?

Anyway...

"Conscious that this document [SC secession document] bore upon its face the plain contradiction of their pretended authority, and its own palpable nullity both in techincal form and essential principle, the convention undertook to give it strength and plausibility by an elaborate Declaration of Causes, adopted a few days later (December 24th)-- a sort of half-parody of Jefferson's masterpiece. It could of course, quote no direct warrant from the Constitution for secession, but sought to deduce one, by implication, from the language of the Declaration of Independence and the Xth amendment. It reasserts the absurd paradox of State supremacy-persistantly miscaled "State Rights" --which reverses the natural order of governmental existance ; considers a State superior to the Union; makes a part greater than the whole; turns the pyramid of authority upon its apex; plants the tree of liberty with its branches in the ground and its roots in the air.

The fallacy has been has been a hundred times analysed, exposed, and refuted; but the cheap dogmatism of demagougues and the automatic machinery of faction perpetually conjures it up anew to astonish the sucklings and terrify the dotards of politiics. The notable point in the Declaration of Causes is, that its complaint over grievances past and present is against certain states, and for these remedy was of course logically barred by its own theory of state supremacy. On the other hand, all its allegations against the Union are concerning dangers to come, before which admission the moral justification of disunion falls to the ground, In rejecting the rememdy of future elections for future wrongs, the conspiracy discarded the entire theory of republican government. One might have thought that this might have exhausted their counterfeit philosophy--but not yet. Greatly as they groaned at unfriendly state laws--serisly as they pretended to fear damage or spoilation under future federal statutes, the burden of their anger rose at the sentient and belief of the North. "All hope of remedy," says the manifesto, "is rendered vain by the fact that the public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanctions of a more erroneous religious belief."

This is language one might expect from the Pope of Rome; but that an American convention should denounce the liberty of opinion, is not merely to recede from Jefferson, to Louis XIV; it is flying from the town-meeting to the Inquisition." "With all their affectation of legality, formality, and present justification, some f the members were honest enough to acknowledge the true character of the event as the culmination of a chronic conspiracy, not a spontaneous revolution. "The secession of South Carolina," said one of the chief actors, "is not an event of a day. It is not anything produced by Mr. Lincoln's election, or by the non-execution of the Fugitive Slave Law. It is a matter which has been gathering head for thirty years." This with many similar avowals, crowns and completes the otherwise abundant proof that the revolt was not only aganist right, but that it was without cause."

--John G. Nicolay, 1881

Nicolay makes a lot of sense.

Walt

194 posted on 12/03/2001 11:47:50 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Oh.

How about those TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS!!??

Whooooooo Hoooooooooooooooo!

Walt

195 posted on 12/03/2001 11:52:21 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Tennessee Volunteers? Oh, has basketball season started already?
196 posted on 12/03/2001 1:10:20 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
RE: Post #188

And seeing how Washington politicians abuse the Constitution makes my support for the South stronger.

197 posted on 12/03/2001 1:53:11 PM PST by CWRWinger
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To: stand watie
according to THE LIBERATOR in 1865 there were more slaves in the north than there had been in 1860. therefore you damnyankees were hardly "ramping down the number of slaves" in YOUR states.

If that were true, it would be because they were taking advantage of the war to escape that fine Southern Hospitality.

BTW, General Benjamin Butler of the damnyankee army was SELLING captured slaves on the New Orleans slave block in 1863!

As I've said a hundred times, the South seceded for slavery, the North fought to preserve the Union.

MOST of the slaves sold were either free men & women OR CSA soldiers, who had been captured. 1/5 of the sale price went to the auctioneer (a union colonel-this is why auctioneers are called colonel today!), 1/5 to Gen Butler and the other 3/5 to the damnyankee army.

That excuses all of the immorality of the South?

face it #3, the damnyankees were ALWAYS hypocrytes and scum. nothing more nothing less.

Apparently God-sanctioned, they did win, the result of which got rid of your filthy lucre cash cow of slavery. They fought to preserve the union. I'm sure that there weren't many that fought to abolish slavery. It doesn't matter now. That proves that Lincoln and the Radical Republicans were indeed very special people. They alone led the fight to get rid of slavery in this country. Thank God for Lincoln and the Radical Republicans. They didn't listen to people like you from the North or the South who say slavery was OK because it was legal or that we were doing the slaves favor by giving them room and board. The Slavocrats said they fought for Constitutional freedom, who's the hypocritical scum?

198 posted on 12/03/2001 7:32:25 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: CWRWinger
And seeing how Washington politicians abuse the Constitution makes my support for the South stronger.

Those Southern politicians like Clinton, acorn head, and Wexler never abuse the Constitution, do they?

199 posted on 12/03/2001 7:36:26 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
In the case of Clinton, you must admit, the South didn't go for that scalawag. Nor does this piece of human refuse even live in the South.
200 posted on 12/03/2001 11:57:43 PM PST by CWRWinger
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