Posted on 11/21/2001 11:54:19 AM PST by shuckmaster
Edited on 05/11/2004 5:33:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- Police at the University of Missouri have arrested a student suspected of destroying a Confederate flag in a dorm room.
Dave Sierpina, 18, of Aurora, Ill., was arrested on suspicion of second-degree burglary and property damage.
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Good idea.
BTW, General Benjamin Butler of the damnyankee army was SELLING captured slaves on the New Orleans slave block in 1863! MOST of the slaves sold were either free men & women OR CSA soldiers, who had been captured. 1/5 of the sale price went to the auctioneer (a union colonel-this is why auctioneers are called colonel today!), 1/5 to Gen Butler and the other 3/5 to the damnyankee army.
face it #3, the damnyankees were ALWAYS hypocrytes and scum. nothing more nothing less.
I assume that you have some evidence of this? As well as the claim that there were more slaves up north in 1865 than there were in 1860.
Agreed!
once more, i'm not going to spend what little free time i have chasing down references for you, as no matter what reference i post you wouldn't believe the source. in one case (was it you?) last year, a freeper said that the official service records at the US ARCHIVES were southron dominated and not to be believed. that particuliar stupidity ASSURED that i'd never do research on request of ANYONE on the forum, without charging my usual reasearch fee = $ 60.00/hour (what i charge to commercial clients to do family searches.)
I've heard this many times before. Co-worker just moved from N.H. & said b/w relations are worse up there. family lived in PA for a while. klan held meetings at the local school (after-hours of course).
most folks overlook the fact that the largest klan organization is in the NORTH today (PA).
What do you base that on?
Freedom like a child in a sandbox, maybe.
Hey, does it cost FreeRepublic to run more bandwidth to support this neo-con drivel?
Anyway...
"Conscious that this document [SC secession document] bore upon its face the plain contradiction of their pretended authority, and its own palpable nullity both in techincal form and essential principle, the convention undertook to give it strength and plausibility by an elaborate Declaration of Causes, adopted a few days later (December 24th)-- a sort of half-parody of Jefferson's masterpiece. It could of course, quote no direct warrant from the Constitution for secession, but sought to deduce one, by implication, from the language of the Declaration of Independence and the Xth amendment. It reasserts the absurd paradox of State supremacy-persistantly miscaled "State Rights" --which reverses the natural order of governmental existance ; considers a State superior to the Union; makes a part greater than the whole; turns the pyramid of authority upon its apex; plants the tree of liberty with its branches in the ground and its roots in the air.
The fallacy has been has been a hundred times analysed, exposed, and refuted; but the cheap dogmatism of demagougues and the automatic machinery of faction perpetually conjures it up anew to astonish the sucklings and terrify the dotards of politiics. The notable point in the Declaration of Causes is, that its complaint over grievances past and present is against certain states, and for these remedy was of course logically barred by its own theory of state supremacy. On the other hand, all its allegations against the Union are concerning dangers to come, before which admission the moral justification of disunion falls to the ground, In rejecting the rememdy of future elections for future wrongs, the conspiracy discarded the entire theory of republican government. One might have thought that this might have exhausted their counterfeit philosophy--but not yet. Greatly as they groaned at unfriendly state laws--serisly as they pretended to fear damage or spoilation under future federal statutes, the burden of their anger rose at the sentient and belief of the North. "All hope of remedy," says the manifesto, "is rendered vain by the fact that the public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanctions of a more erroneous religious belief."
This is language one might expect from the Pope of Rome; but that an American convention should denounce the liberty of opinion, is not merely to recede from Jefferson, to Louis XIV; it is flying from the town-meeting to the Inquisition." "With all their affectation of legality, formality, and present justification, some f the members were honest enough to acknowledge the true character of the event as the culmination of a chronic conspiracy, not a spontaneous revolution. "The secession of South Carolina," said one of the chief actors, "is not an event of a day. It is not anything produced by Mr. Lincoln's election, or by the non-execution of the Fugitive Slave Law. It is a matter which has been gathering head for thirty years." This with many similar avowals, crowns and completes the otherwise abundant proof that the revolt was not only aganist right, but that it was without cause."
--John G. Nicolay, 1881
Nicolay makes a lot of sense.
Walt
How about those TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS!!??
Whooooooo Hoooooooooooooooo!
Walt
And seeing how Washington politicians abuse the Constitution makes my support for the South stronger.
If that were true, it would be because they were taking advantage of the war to escape that fine Southern Hospitality.
BTW, General Benjamin Butler of the damnyankee army was SELLING captured slaves on the New Orleans slave block in 1863!
As I've said a hundred times, the South seceded for slavery, the North fought to preserve the Union.
MOST of the slaves sold were either free men & women OR CSA soldiers, who had been captured. 1/5 of the sale price went to the auctioneer (a union colonel-this is why auctioneers are called colonel today!), 1/5 to Gen Butler and the other 3/5 to the damnyankee army.
That excuses all of the immorality of the South?
face it #3, the damnyankees were ALWAYS hypocrytes and scum. nothing more nothing less.
Apparently God-sanctioned, they did win, the result of which got rid of your filthy lucre cash cow of slavery. They fought to preserve the union. I'm sure that there weren't many that fought to abolish slavery. It doesn't matter now. That proves that Lincoln and the Radical Republicans were indeed very special people. They alone led the fight to get rid of slavery in this country. Thank God for Lincoln and the Radical Republicans. They didn't listen to people like you from the North or the South who say slavery was OK because it was legal or that we were doing the slaves favor by giving them room and board. The Slavocrats said they fought for Constitutional freedom, who's the hypocritical scum?
Those Southern politicians like Clinton, acorn head, and Wexler never abuse the Constitution, do they?
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