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Posted on 11/19/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by FF578

Has anyone noticed that the Liberal influence has spread here into Free Republic. I notice that less and less Conservatives seem to post here, and more and more Libertarians seem to be.

I get a letter from someone named NYpeanut who is mad because I posted a discussion based on the Gender Gap in voting.

I didn't make it up, there is really a huge Gender gap with Female Voters tending toward the more liberal candidate. The discussion went well without name calling, but this person seems to have taken issue to the fact that I pointed out women seem to vote more liberally than men.

All those who are newbies here are considered disruptors, and those who hold a more right-winged view than the average libertarian seem to be kicked out.

Why is this? Is this a Libertarian site now?

I have noticed more and more posters standing up for Abortion, Homosexuality, the Porn Industry and Drugs since I first came to this site back before the 2000 Election.

Are Christian Conservatives(Who make up a large part of the Republican core vote) not allowed here anymore?

Just because one holds to a higher power, and wishes to shape society in accordance with the laws of Almighty God, does not make one a Taliban Milita member.


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To: DouglasKC
Gutsey flag, now that I called you on it.

It's customary to flag a member you presume to speak for, in my book. To bad if you don't like it.

As to my knowledge of your philosophy, thats been obvious to me for years, from your posts. It's usually pretty easy to ignore.

'Infecting' FR wasn't.

641 posted on 11/19/2001 8:25:02 PM PST by tpaine
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To: mlocher
Why would it require a constitutional ammendment? Where in the Bill of Rights does it protect our right to kill our offspring?
642 posted on 11/19/2001 8:25:33 PM PST by Verax
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To: FF578
At this point, there have been 628 posts to your article and I don't have time to read through them right now, so I hope I am not repeating someone.

It would be a very boring world if everyone was in total agreement on every issue. I enjoy the challenge of diverse opinions, and the interaction of people with opposing views. This keeps me sharp and either reaffirms my views or alters them (a rare event).

643 posted on 11/19/2001 8:25:37 PM PST by bjcintennessee
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To: Spyder
It sounds to me like you want the site to be solely for pro-life, hyperreligious types.

UHHHH, NO. . . .

NOR do some of us enjoy being labeled hyperreligous just because we believe some things as strongly as you do.

It's real cheeky to scream "HYPERRELIGIOUS" *primarily* or *only* because someone dares to state something as strongly as you do. One almost gets the impression sometimes that a big chunk of the rabid screamers hereon consider religion/spirituality to be horribly evil, intolerable concepts/practices.

644 posted on 11/19/2001 8:26:35 PM PST by Quix
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To: mlocher
Ooops...#642 was meant for you.
645 posted on 11/19/2001 8:27:06 PM PST by Verax
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To: Gracey
...rigid beliefs and moralistic purist attitude is more akin to the democrats than republicans

the republicans set up laws that mimic god's laws to protect each of us from our neighbors. democrats, on the other hand, want to be god and set up even more laws to protect each of us from ourselves.

646 posted on 11/19/2001 8:29:08 PM PST by mlocher
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To: Gracey
Can't we leave the Bible out of Political discussions? This is NOT a church. This is a POLITICAL discussion group.

WHICH PART of "body politic" do you not understand?

You have no hesitation citing sources of value to you. You have no trouble valuing highly those documents, sources, principles which have brought your life meaning and guided your choices and behaviors. You are happy to integrate those into the whole of your life and certainly to guide your understanding of, discussion of and interaction with/in the body politic.

But you want to prevent Christians from doing the same. What a selfishly unnoble attitude and perspective that appears to be.

647 posted on 11/19/2001 8:32:25 PM PST by Quix
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To: Verax
and the question i have for you and others who support pro-abortion candidates is...

i said i could envision a scenario where i could support a pro-abortion candidate. fact is i never have. life is important to me, the most precious gift that god has given to us.

would i support a pro-abortion, reduce tax, candidate over a pro-life, pro-homosexual, separation of church and state candidate -- yes, but only because the supreme court made it harder to fight this.

i would like to see a political strategy where we stop raising the abortion issue for a few years. get those pro-abortionists to vote conservative and get conservatives in office. then let's work on the abortion issue...

648 posted on 11/19/2001 8:35:34 PM PST by mlocher
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To: Old Hickory
I am against the liberal influence here and am alarmed at the free exchange of ideas going on around here.

Nicely said. We have to keep out the free exchange of ideas at all costs. It just leads to the harder stuff: drugs, baby-killin', women and minorities being allowed to vote for whomever they darn well please, etc.

As for me, I even object to the "Free" in Free Republic. Makes those refer-tootin' hippies think they're a-gonna get a handout when they visit this site, or at least be allowed to voice their wackjob opinions. Should be in jail, if'n ya ask me, not smearin' their commie pinko fascist liberal dirt all over our good Christian site.

649 posted on 11/19/2001 8:38:04 PM PST by nicknack
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To: mlocher
with freedom comes responsibility.

As V Frankel said:

There is NO freedom without responsibility.

It's a universal law about as sure as gravity though with a lot more delay built in. Without responsibility, sooner or later, there will be no freedom.

Of course, without the freedom to choose, there's no responsibility, either.

650 posted on 11/19/2001 8:38:52 PM PST by Quix
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To: tpaine
Reread the post, KC said that JR was 'infecting' the forum.

Nice spin. And now you are baiting KC.
BTW How many posters have you bagged this month?

651 posted on 11/19/2001 8:40:15 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: FF578
libertarian ain't liberal
652 posted on 11/19/2001 8:40:29 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Verax
i think we are on the same side on this issue. i am in so many hissy matches on this thread that i have lost track of who is who!

i have given my opinion on how i would strategize this in an earlier post. but i am open to other suggestions.

i like your attitude of using the bill of rights -- i love beating others at their own game -- but pragmatically i would think that someone would have taken this to court by now if it would work.

abortion is a very painful issue for me. i am open to any and all suggestions on how to overturn roe vs. wade.

653 posted on 11/19/2001 8:41:38 PM PST by mlocher
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To: FF578
Aren't your colors backwards? I thought the blue states were Gore states? The red states were Bush states?
654 posted on 11/19/2001 8:43:31 PM PST by Z-28
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To: mlocher
would i support a pro-abortion, reduce tax, candidate over a pro-life, pro-homosexual, separation of church and state candidate -- yes, but only because the supreme court made it harder to fight this.

- I don't know what to say...I could never betray the protection of innocent human life for political gamesmanship...I have a 2 year old son, and I would feel as though I were betraying him and defiling the miracle of his birth.

I don't understand how anyone with a child can feel any differently!

655 posted on 11/19/2001 8:44:10 PM PST by Verax
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To: Verax
Ooops...#642 was meant for you

i hate to correct a correction, but i think you got it right in the first place.

656 posted on 11/19/2001 8:44:17 PM PST by mlocher
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To: FF578
WHAT? WOMEN CAN VOTE?!!!
657 posted on 11/19/2001 8:46:05 PM PST by sicsemperchad
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To: Gracey
Did you ever think that your rigid beliefs and moralistic purist attitude is more akin to the Democrats than the Republicans?

Have you ever really measured . . .

The rigidities, the degree of rigidity on your side of such arguments? There have been some studies doing that. Depending on how one defines, sets the criteria defining the sides, those on your side of such positions came out MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANTLY RIGID, dogmatic, and some other more serious variable that I've forgotten . . . something in the direction of more abusive, dangerous. . . . by a wide margin. No, I have other things more important to do than track down the book with the refs in it. If you are seriously interested in the truth, you can search it out yourself. One keyword could be "indiscrimminantly anti-religious."

658 posted on 11/19/2001 8:46:33 PM PST by Quix
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To: Verax
i don't understand how anyone with a child can feel any differently

i completely understand your point.

659 posted on 11/19/2001 8:46:41 PM PST by mlocher
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To: FF578
Yep, and illegal drug sales are a primary financier of worldwide terrorism, much more so than oil and arms.
660 posted on 11/19/2001 8:48:22 PM PST by Z-28
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