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Posted on 11/19/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by FF578

Has anyone noticed that the Liberal influence has spread here into Free Republic. I notice that less and less Conservatives seem to post here, and more and more Libertarians seem to be.

I get a letter from someone named NYpeanut who is mad because I posted a discussion based on the Gender Gap in voting.

I didn't make it up, there is really a huge Gender gap with Female Voters tending toward the more liberal candidate. The discussion went well without name calling, but this person seems to have taken issue to the fact that I pointed out women seem to vote more liberally than men.

All those who are newbies here are considered disruptors, and those who hold a more right-winged view than the average libertarian seem to be kicked out.

Why is this? Is this a Libertarian site now?

I have noticed more and more posters standing up for Abortion, Homosexuality, the Porn Industry and Drugs since I first came to this site back before the 2000 Election.

Are Christian Conservatives(Who make up a large part of the Republican core vote) not allowed here anymore?

Just because one holds to a higher power, and wishes to shape society in accordance with the laws of Almighty God, does not make one a Taliban Milita member.


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To: deport
I just can't read anymore of this........it's making my head hurt!
501 posted on 11/19/2001 6:42:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: PJ-Comix
[T]he typical conservative was a grumpy ultra-serious type.

E.g., Goldwater. Especially in his senile, yammering, pro-gay activist days.

So Reagan comes on the scene and he is laughing AT their foibles....and they really hated that.

Reagan did have a fine sense of humor. A wonderful and charming man who is routinely condemned by the fun-loving, wisecracking, loosey-goosey libertarians here as a "socialist."

A lot of the old line conservatives don't even realize how clueless they are. Many of them probably condemned Sam Kinison for foul language without actually LISTENING to what he said.

I listened to Kinison. I only thought he was funny when I still had liberal leanings. Then I discovered he was an unfunny, obscene, screaming ass.

Unfortunately, Peter Pan, that's the perspective that one tends to acquire when one grows up.

502 posted on 11/19/2001 6:43:33 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Brian Allen
A passionate Jeffersonian Constitutionalist who has been associated with Libertarianism's ideals since picking up Ayn Rand at the age of fifteen -- and who scores 100% on any and every Libertarian Quiz -- I wouldn't touch the modern party with a hundred foot pole!

A lot of those Randians are/were pretty clueless too. They used to call themselves Objectivists and they had little sense of humor. Ever date an Objectivist chick? Talk about a lousy evening! Yeah, I want to sit there and discuss Randian philosophy all night. < /sarcasm>

Hey, I agree with a lot (but not all) of what Ayn Rand has written but those Objectivists can be really overbearing. Fortunately, there aren't too many of the cult-like Objectivists left.

503 posted on 11/19/2001 6:45:12 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: Brian Allen
Its members seem more like libertines than Libertarians!

Must agreeee with you to some extent. Here in Austin, 50% of my libertarian friends are participating in the AntiWar parades with the maggot infested, unwashed Socialists. I just don't understand. It's rather split the party, IMO.

504 posted on 11/19/2001 6:45:15 PM PST by Gracey
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To: FF578
I am a newbie and about as right wing conservative christian as you can get. mostly lurking as all the good stuff is usually said by the time I get here!
505 posted on 11/19/2001 6:45:51 PM PST by katiebelle
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To: FF578; NYpeanut
NYpeanut is a known liberal disrupter.
506 posted on 11/19/2001 6:45:55 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: FF578
I have noticed more and more posters standing up for Abortion, Homosexuality, the Porn Industry and Drugs since I first came to this site back before the 2000 Election.

You got that right. It started by the pro-druggies characterizing anybody that opposed the legalization of drugs as being statist Nazi's who only cared about infringing on other's "freedom."

Jim Robinson is anti-war on drugs which means those threads are allowed to infect the forum.

What he doesn't realize is pro-legalization are either leftists trying to push their agenda under the conservative buzzwords "freedom" and "the right of the people"...or those who have been duped by leftists into thinking that.

Once the camels nose was under the tent, it became an easy thing for a leftist to come on here, post something outrageous, wait for someone to respond with an insult, and then get them banned by hitting the abuse button.

Libertarian DOES NOT equal conservative.

507 posted on 11/19/2001 6:46:33 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Luis Gonzalez
yep they had you banned and buried only they spelled your screen name wrong LOL
The ones that said it are fools... and freeper wanna=be but they are stuck in a cave like Bin Laden.
508 posted on 11/19/2001 6:47:25 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: dirtboy
Amazing how many people would be surprised at the number of wealthy successful conservative attorneys, physicians, and business owners who were leftist junkies in college.
509 posted on 11/19/2001 6:48:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Kevin Curry
I listened to Kinison. I only thought he was funny when I still had liberal leanings. Then I discovered he was an unfunny, obscene, screaming ass.

I still listen to Kinison's routines and I still find them hilarious. Obscene, perhaps but soooo true. I remember one routine he did about when he was unhappily married and his wife was yakking away next to him in the car at a red light and all he wanted to do was just open the door and leave his wife with the keys still in the car. You have to hear that one to appreciate it but it sure rang true as did a lot of his other routines.

Andrew Dice Clay, OTOH, just did a lot of foul language without any real point. Also he was a lame Sam Kinison ripoff.

510 posted on 11/19/2001 6:50:32 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: DouglasKC
"What he doesn't realize is pro-legalization are either leftists trying to push their agenda under the conservative buzzwords "freedom" and "the right of the people"...or those who have been duped by leftists into thinking that."

Your lack of insight is astounding.
511 posted on 11/19/2001 6:53:04 PM PST by gjenkins
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To: DouglasKC
Libertarian DOES NOT equal conservative.

i.e., you're not too bright when it comes to judging others. I guess your definition of conservative has been self defined as the baseline for "conservative." We're a group that ranges from the far right on a scale to the middle of the road or in my opinion we cover the range of all people who do not espouse the LIBERAL/Leftist agenda = not easy to define.

512 posted on 11/19/2001 6:53:33 PM PST by Gracey
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To: jwalsh07
Most of them were classical liberals with a strong and uncompromising faith in the Christian God. Today you'd call them paleo-conservatives and christian fundamentalists. They were champions of property rights, anti-taxation, anti-democracy, political speech rights, isolationism while at the same time passed hundreds of state laws that punished immorality and social depravity. Or if you prefer they were largely landed middle class Burkean-style conservatives. Paleo-conservative and fundamentalist protestant in today's relative terms or paleo-fundies.
513 posted on 11/19/2001 6:53:38 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: FF578
buncha damned homos!
rotten @$$ commies!
nuke beijing now!
get your f***in' hands off my guns!
hollywood sucks!
bill maher is a major @$$HOLE!
nuke baghdad now!
bring me the head of bin laden!
ugly @$$, 'ol reno lezzie types!
the clintons can kiss my irish @$$ too!
$crew putin!
'WHORE-WALDO' is a phony pr**k!

that sound like a lib/losertarian to you?
you must be talking about 'fox news' and ariana huff 'n puffington!!

(go away!)

514 posted on 11/19/2001 6:53:39 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: jwalsh07
I don't know what Paleo-fundies are either, but they certainly don't sound good. One thing I know is that the founding fathers were anything but, thank heavens. Franklin, Jefferson, Washington and Adams would absolutely freak at being so described, particularly the first two. These kind of threads are a total waste of energy. Little of value is said, typically. JMO.
515 posted on 11/19/2001 6:53:48 PM PST by Torie
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To: FF578
wow! this article was posted about 5 hours ago and already it has generated over 500 responses, or about 100 per hour.

you should be commended for posting such a thought provoking article!

(i have not checked the quality of the responses, however.)

516 posted on 11/19/2001 6:55:32 PM PST by mlocher
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Amazing how many people would be surprised at the number of wealthy successful conservative attorneys, physicians, and business owners who were leftist junkies in college.

Bet there's a large group.... including David Horowitz and P.J. O'Roarke.

518 posted on 11/19/2001 6:56:10 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Rightwing Conspirator1
RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! Our Founding Fathers were not dope smoking pot heads who wanted freedom to do what was right in their own eyes.
519 posted on 11/19/2001 6:56:42 PM PST by FF578
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To: gjenkins
What he doesn't realize is pro-legalization are either leftists trying to push their agenda under the conservative buzzwords "freedom" and "the right of the people"...or those who have been duped by leftists into thinking that." Your lack of insight is astounding.

So is your lack of perception...

520 posted on 11/19/2001 6:57:42 PM PST by DouglasKC
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