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To: Aquinasfan
absolute accidents cannot exist...

Obviously, you don't comprehend the observation made by King. And, as such, you just gave us another demonstration of religious zeal superceding reasoned thought.

Religion is based on faith. Faith is the belief in something, absent any evidence. You have a lot of faith, I'd wager. Which is why you can't acknowledge facts which definitely contradict your preconceived opinions.

Thanks, but you are the weakest link.

Good-bye!

22 posted on 11/16/2001 5:36:58 PM PST by Capitalist Eric
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To: Capitalist Eric
This is not your college roomate who might be impressed with your schtick. In the real world, you have to back up your arguments with facts or deduction from first principles.

In your materialist world, everything is matter in motion. Every event is predetermined because it is (by this theory anyway) the mechanical working out of prior mechanical events. Therefore, there is no chance and no accident. Just raw, meaningless determinism.

The frustrating thing about materialists like yourself is that you aren't rigorous.

Here's another problem. If everything is matter in motion, then your mind and thoughts are simply matter in motion, as are mine. So if my thought that materialism is false is just as blindly determined as your thought that materialism is true, on what basis do we determine which is true?

For that matter, what is truth in your theoretical materialist universe? For Christians and most sane people, it is the adequation of thought and reality. By what mechanism can thought conform to external reality?

Another problem. If your mind is a mechanical device, how do you know if it's functioning properly? Materialism quickly lapses into solipsism.

25 posted on 11/16/2001 5:55:43 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Capitalist Eric
Here is my best guess. You have your own assumptions which claim to account for certain people and/or beliefs in their entirety; and, seeing the logic of those assumptions and hoping to have some fun, you endeavor to belittle them in a way that won't get you some kind of formidable backlash. So you do some pshaw-ing and when you feel you're about to get some backlash, you walk through a litany that your assumptions prescribe and then you say, "See, there's no point in talking to you."
30 posted on 11/18/2001 12:24:24 PM PST by Mmmike
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