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This is not your college roomate who might be impressed with your schtick. In the real world, you have to back up your arguments with facts or deduction from first principles.

In your materialist world, everything is matter in motion. Every event is predetermined because it is (by this theory anyway) the mechanical working out of prior mechanical events. Therefore, there is no chance and no accident. Just raw, meaningless determinism.

The frustrating thing about materialists like yourself is that you aren't rigorous.

Here's another problem. If everything is matter in motion, then your mind and thoughts are simply matter in motion, as are mine. So if my thought that materialism is false is just as blindly determined as your thought that materialism is true, on what basis do we determine which is true?

For that matter, what is truth in your theoretical materialist universe? For Christians and most sane people, it is the adequation of thought and reality. By what mechanism can thought conform to external reality?

Another problem. If your mind is a mechanical device, how do you know if it's functioning properly? Materialism quickly lapses into solipsism.

In the real world, you have to back up your arguments with facts...

I didn't have to read any further than that, to do the "copy" thing, and reply.

Funny thing- religion is based on a lack of facts. There used to be a God for the Moon, the stars, the wind, the rain, the ocean... Hell, there was probably even one for bad breath!

As science has evolved, it has been able to explore the mysteries of life. And as such, the power of religion has died.

Religion does have a purpose; it lays down tenets that all civilized people must follow, in order to coexist in a society. In other words, it establishes a code of conduct for all to follow.

But don't bother to try arguing facts with me. You're arguments- ostensibly based on (what was that feckless term you used?) "first laws"- won't make it off the ground, much less be convincing.

Good try. Go get on the "Christian Chronicles- the Neverending (and diaphanous) Debate" thread, if you want to spew your dogmatic garbage.

Dogmatism works on simpletons.

Which, of course, explains your blind faith...

BTW, don't bother to keep trying to keep up your nonsensical arguments to support an inherently untenable position.

I could waste my time repeatedly demonstrating your being a nincompoop, but why bother? You are unworthy of my energy and time.

'Nuff said.