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Best explanation of what's happening there. A very good source of Jewish organizations, against the occupation, linked in last chapter of the book!
1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:15 PM PST by ExiledInTaiwan
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2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:20 PM PST by ExiledInTaiwan
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Best explanation of what's happening there. A very good source of Jewish organizations, against the occupation, linked in last chapter of the book!

Manufactured in Berkeley, USA! The last chapter is a roundup of the usual leftwing whackos.

BARF ALERT!

5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:28 PM PST by Alouette
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Left wing propaganda. The left hates Israel, even the Jewish left.
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:29 PM PST by Inyokern
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Best explanation of what's happening there. A very good source of Jewish organizations, against the occupation, linked in last chapter of the book!

Manufactured in Berkeley, USA! The last chapter is a roundup of the usual leftwing whackos.

BARF ALERT!

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:29 PM PST by Alouette
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Thanks for the link. Now, I want to find something similar from the Palestinians' perspective...
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:29 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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MegaBarf Alert!!!

11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:29 PM PST by MississippiMan
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This "conflict" has been going on since Isaac and Ishmael. Nothing worth reading here, move along.
20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:31 PM PST by scooter2
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Thanks for the post. Excellent book.
38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by BenF
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Here's the true rigin of the conflict between Israel and the so-called "palestinians" :

Genesis 16:

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And the angel of the LORD found (Hagar) by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.

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And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.

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And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

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And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

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And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

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And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.


46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by Sabertooth
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"A very good source of Jewish organizations, against the occupation, linked in last chapter of the book!"

That's exactly the problem, these stupid leftist Jews keep blaming Israel for not making peace no matter what they do. On the flip-side there are no Muslims blaming the Palestinians, they are under no pressure from their own people to do anything
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by Michael2001
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The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict?

Religion.
66 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:50 PM PST by BikerNYC
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THIS BOOK IS ANTI-SEMITIC GARBAGE.

It has been posted on many far-left and anarchist websites (including, if I recall, Ramsey Clark's anti-American site).

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77 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:57 PM PST by ppaul
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The whole Arab Israeli conflict has been going on for so long that I think of the conflict not as a bunch of seperate little wars, but a long, raggedly spaced string of "attacks and counter-attacks". Perhaps we should name the whole bloody mess "The Middle Eastern World War".

You want to know the history? Look it up in a desk encyclopedia. Don't learn it from a biased website.

The war has gone on long enough. It is time for the hatred to stop, and the prejudices to end. It's time for the whole bloody MESS to END.

The palestinains are NOT THE VICTIMS. They were living on a territory under foreign rule, and they never had a state, a currency, a president or prime minister. THE PALESTINIANS DID NOT HAVE A COUNTRY.

Get over, it, people. Sorry for yelling. From the perspective of someone who's been collecting Arab opinions on just this subject, I can tell you this story looks just like the propaganda these people shout right before yelling "DEATH TO ISRAEL!!" It gets on my nerves.

79 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:06 PM PST by cake_crumb
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REMEMBER the Amalekites!

It started when King Saul did not obey GOD and eliminate all the Amalikites. Right!?

81 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:07 PM PST by timestax
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I appreciate the bump and the link.
Since FR's pro-Israel mob is screaming about it (as usual) means it probably has worthwhile info
(no matter what part of the country it was written in).
You know, I've always been basically neutral/pro-Israel, but the one-sided rants from most of the
FR pro-Israel cheerleaders sure make it difficult to maintain that position.
They couldn't do a better job if they were Palestinians masquerading as pro-Israeli fanatics.
I will read through it as soon as I get a chance.
Thanks again.
84 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:08 PM PST by freefly
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1. Nationhood and Jerusalem ... Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier!

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict; The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one 'Jewish' nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The UN was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem Synagogues.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

89 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:16 PM PST by 68 grunt
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BUMP
96 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:32 PM PST by Aurelius
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Just a little historical revision going on there, no problem, the same type attempts to rewrite the history of America, we don't listen to them either.
124 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:24 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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We should now expect you to link to a Bill Clinton, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Noam Chomsky version of American history. The more you use leftists and peaceniks to advance your "position" the more stupid and disengenuous you look. Since when does Free Republic become a haven of leftists and liars? Certainly you using this trash is evidence that there are enough closet leftists on Free Republic at least when it comes to Israel.
149 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:03 PM PST by Lent
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Chaim Herzog. Read him first, The History of the Arab Israeli Conflict. This link provided here on this thread is so bogus, I can't even barf!
239 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:14 PM PST by RaceBannon
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