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Canada: - Our boys are ready to roll 1,000 soldiers mobilized -- next stop, Afghanistan
Canadian Press via Toronto Sun ^ | November 15, 2001

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:10 PM PST by Clive

OTTAWA -- Canada's on the move.

About 1,000 soldiers at CFB Edmonton were told yesterday to be ready to head for Afghanistan on 48 hours' notice.

Warning orders went out to members of the 3rd battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry around dinner time.

It was not clear how soon the soldiers might set out. One source said they could be on the ground as early as the middle of next week, but little is certain because events in Afghanistan are unfolding with dizzying speed.

The force consists of three infantry rifle companies, a small engineer squadron, a headquarters detachment, a combat support company, and an administrative company.

The Canadians will likely be assigned to help stabilize the war-torn country and escort aid convoys, Defence Minister Art Eggleton said last night.

But their exact duties are still being worked out because the situation is changing rapidly since Taliban forces were unexpectedly routed in the past three days.

Plans are being worked out with the U.S. army central command in Tampa, Fla., which is coordinating the war on terrorism in response to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

Earlier yesterday, British soldiers were put on similar notice. Canadian troops will work with U.S. and British units.

It was not clear whether the Canadians would fly to the region in C-130 Hercules transports or being carried there in U.S. air force planes.

This latest commitment brings to 3,000 the number of Canadian sailors, soldiers and air personnel earmarked for the anti-terror war.

Canada earlier dispatched five warships to the region, with another to fill in with a NATO naval squadron.

There was no immediate indication of how long the Canadians will be needed in Afghanistan.


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To: Clive
Thanks for the post. Let's try to walk and chew gum at the same time. What is wrong with tighter border controls, airline security, and kicking a little Afgan butt at the same time. Before we critize Canada too much about controlling borders, We may want to send a message to D.C..

I understand we are going to allow illegal aliens to fly out of the country legally, fly back in legally to take up their illegal status again after "mourning" . Give me a break. Are we a great country or what? Forget that tatoo of a flag I was thinking about. I'll spend the money on lazer treatment to try to get the "STUPID" erased from my forehead.

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:33 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: norton; ken5050
The terrorist in the 9.11 attack did NOT cross the border from Canada. They arrived by plane from Germany, and other destinations, and by the way. It's up to YOU to police your own borders, not Canadians.

Stop blaming the world for your problems. You're starting to sound like those whiners in the middle east.

22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:33 PM PST by jerod
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To: Clive
Will Geraldo be coming in with them?
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: Clive
Interesting stuff about the PPCLI. Is it possible that with a name like that, they have to fight like hell? Like that old Johnny Cash song about "A Boy Named Sue".
24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: jerod
Canada is an pseudo-socialist country governed by a moron who makes Forrest Gump look intelligent.

The Canadian military has a glorious past, but, since Korea, have really just been hired security guards for the United Nations.

It is not "whining" to call a spade a spade. The country's government, media and elite are and have been consistently anti-American, pro-third world and leftwing. There are many Canadians who are sympathetic to the United States, but they have, nada, zilch influence.

Canada's refugee system is a godsend to the terrorists of the world.

Canada is a good text book example of what can happen if the purveyors of socialism, multi-culturalism, and open-borders gain total influence. The Canadian dollar is $.62 and falling, it will soon have the American dollar as it's standard of currency.

The United States should thank it's lucky stars GWB, and not algore won the Presidency, as had the Demonrats won, the United States would soon resemble the wimpy neighbor to the north.

25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by bulldog905
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To: Clive
glad to have our dear neighbors to the north helping out! welcome aboard!

and tell jacque to make sure he packs his rifle and grenades and not his hockey stick and curling stones.
26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by mlocher
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To: jporcus
Just what I was thinking. Canada and Mexico drag their feet in the most dispicable manner then jump on the band wagon after we come in for the win.
27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: jerod
I knew when I chose this screen name that they would make me proud.
28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by PPCLI
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To: jerod
Hey, jerod. Do you remember the fall of the Shah in Iran, when most of the American Embassay staff was held hostage? Over 20 Americans managed to get out and ran to the Canadian Embassy in Tehran. The Canadians, at great personal risk, fed, sheltered and hid them the whole time. Funny how we instinctively turned to our trusted neighbors and they put their own necks on the line for our people.
29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by xJones
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To: bulldog905
wow! no reason to vent for having the montreal canadiens win all those stanley cups!

seriously, though, you make some good points. i expect to see canada fall in line with immigration policy. if not, us companies will stop doing business with them because of border crossing problems that will occur in our tightened border.

the canuks can be non-chalant about some things, but they are not stupid
30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:34 PM PST by mlocher
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To: xJones
Canada is a tremendous ally and all right thinking U.S. citizens thank them for any and all help, as we would help Canada in time of need. By the way, is Dave "The Hammer" Schultz looking for work? Osama wouldn't have a chance!
31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:44 PM PST by rot.com
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To: tonycavanagh
Thanks, Tony. I have gotten used to it.

Canada deployed half its admittedly small fleet. Canadian frigates are acting in a normal role for them as part of the escort screen for US CVNs.

JTF2 had been offered but it appears that they wern't needed as there was sufficient of that type of force in the presence of Delta and SAS.

Conventional PBI would not have been useful before now.

We also have had mine locating and clearing teams with their dogs on standby. They are in the Balkans at present but have been designated for Afghanistan.

Judging by most of the replies in these threads, our people are not really needed. Perhaps we should just keep them in Canada and save the money and let the Yanks guard the convoys and clear the mines.

With Christmas coming, I am sure the soldiers' spouses would rather not see this deployment.

BTW, it looks like the Canadians will be under Brit command.

32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:45 PM PST by Clive
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To: Bommer
Now that the enemy has been for the most part defeated, you decide to fight!

That's not fair. Nobody expected the Taliban to crumble so quickly.

33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:46 PM PST by Steve0113
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To: jerod
I'm sure you know that this forum has at least its share of boneheads and to take many of the comments here with a big grain of salt. Some of us have never been to Canada, don't realize that your whole population is about the same as one of our larger states, and that historically the Canadians have always been there to support us.

That being said, what puts off a lot of US conservatives and libertarians (Free Republic kinda folks) is that Canada is politically a clone of the "social democracies" in Europe. But how you run your affairs is your business and, as always, the most important thing to remember is that when the s**t hits the fan, the people we will really be able to count on will all be speaking English.

34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:46 PM PST by katana
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To: Clive
re : With Christmas coming, I am sure the soldiers' spouses would rather not see this deployment.

Tell me about it, I have a few mates who were supposed to come home from the Balkans were shipped of elsewhere poor chaps.

I am still thinking about moving the family to Canada.

Tony

35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:46 PM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Clive
I for one am thankful the Canadians are in the fight. Simple math, Canada has 50,000 troops in their military and 5,000 are in the fight directly. That is 10%. Bet we don't have 10% of our militaty directly involved.
36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:47 PM PST by Lokibob
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To: katana
That being said, what puts off a lot of US conservatives and libertarians (Free Republic kinda folks) is that Canada is politically a clone of the "social democracies" in Europe.

Vacationed in the eastern provinces a few years back, and was struck at the manner in which the Canadian media beats down the people into P.C. correctness. The only media available was essentially the Canadian equivalent of NPR -- and when I say equivalent, I mean in every odious sense.

What Canada needs is George Bush and Free Republic. Throw off your chains.

37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:47 PM PST by WL-law
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To: Clive
It's aboot time, eh?
38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:47 PM PST by oldvike
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To: Bommer
Now that the enemy has been for the most part defeated, you decide to fight! Reminds me of Russia declaring war against Japan after they surrendered.

That's a cheap shot against the Russians -- I'm no fan of the Commies, and, yeah, they jumped in late to grab the Kuriles, but they also lost 20 MILLION fighting the Nazis. Much as we Americans love to crow about how we "saved everyone's asses" in WWII, the Nazis were ground down by the Russians more than anyone else.

39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:48 PM PST by LN2Campy
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To: jerod
When friends reach out to help, most people are appreciative, but I guess there's no pleasing some . . .

Well, this Michganian by birth, Texan by choice appreciates Canadians. And yeah, I agree with some of the criticisms of Canada's government posted by others, but I also agree with similar criticisms of the U.S. gummint for the very same things. That does not make me anti-Canadian or anti-American.

OTOH, I appreciate how the Canadians in Gander opened their hearts (and homes) to all of the Americans stranded there on 9-11. I appreciate how the Canadian people have rallied to this cause, sometimes dragging an occasionally unenthusiastic Canadian government and CBC with it. I appreciate the ships and aircraft the Canadians sent -- both this time and in the Gulf War.

We may have arguments, but the Canadians are family, and families fight from time to time. But families also rally in times of trouble -- even when you do not necessarily always agree with the one you are rallying around. Remember the Vietnam War? Canada did not agree with us on that one. But it was a Canadian journalist, Gordon Sinclair, who defended us to the rest of the world. And if you check the nationalities of the dead listed on the Vietnam Memorial, no 2 (behind U.S.) is Canadian. Thousands of their young men crossed the borders to join our fight -- and some died in it.

40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:48 PM PST by No Truce With Kings
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