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Dangerous Times in NYC - A Personal Experience
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Posted on 11/06/2001 10:29:07 AM PST by Fujiwara

So I'm going home last night on the NYC subway (#1 Train Uptown Broadway Local) when a large (280-300 lbs)agitated, African American man boards the train. The man is wearing a Palestianian head-dress (picture Arafat's typical head piece).

He begins loudly talking to himself aboout how he is going "to have to kill some one". Frightened passengers begin to move away - suddenly he launches an unprovoked barrage of punches against a seated passenger.

Several other passengers momentarily subdue the bad guy - train pulls into the station - bad guy attempts to non-chalantly leave the the train and the station.

So I follow him while talking to 911 on my cell phone. Police arrive quickly, bad guy resists, ends up with a face full of pepper spray - but is subdued quickly and efficiently by NY's Finest.

So the police begin to empty this guys pockets on the street. They find: a copy of the Koran, a book called "Wives of the Prophet", prayer beads, etc. Then they check his waistband where they find A LOADED 9 MILLIMETER HANDGUN, with one in the pipe, gun has no safety.

Later I learn the guy has adopted a musilim AKA, was talking repeatedly about going to Afghanistan to kill people, better yet - he is a convicted murderer so he can be taken at his word.

So what's the point? Do I think this guy is a member of al queda ? No, not even they would want an idiot like this. Do I think he went out last night looking to kill someone for no reason other than craziness and religious zealotry? YES, I do - I saw that in his eyes and his behaviour.

Worse still, I think there are many, many more like him. If I had any doubts that the enemy is among us those doubts are now long gone. Yours should be too.


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To: Fujiwara
Welcome to FR. Don't pay them no mind. They are just jealous. ;)

Sounds like you had quite an adventure. Glad to see a group of people responding to incidents such as this. If this had been the norm over the past few decades, we would be in a lot better shape as a nation! God bless and thanks for the first-hand post.

61 posted on 11/06/2001 11:23:30 AM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: Alberta's Child
Does Canada have some ferocious anti-gun laws?

"If you are afraid to carry an unlicensed firearm, there is an effective substitute. I would recommend a can of hornet spray and a lighter. If you have a problem with someone in a confined space like this and must resort to any means to protect yourself, the combination of these two can be used to project a long stream of flame at the assailant. This spray is intended to be used on a hornet's nest from a safe distance, so when you use it in this manner you can probably strike someone a full subway car length away from you without having dispersal effects from the flame on adjoining passengers."

62 posted on 11/06/2001 11:27:09 AM PST by Thud
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To: Fujiwara
If you lived in the right Council district (Spanish Harlem), you could have voted for a convicted murderer in the primary. Now you can vote for Bernie Goetz today in NYC. What is it Cindy Adams always says?
63 posted on 11/06/2001 11:29:44 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Fujiwara
early this morning the arresting officer arrived at my home to serve me a SUBPEONA to appear b4 the Grand Jury so they can lock this guy up. I guess at part of an effort to convince me taht it is really iomportant that I show up - he mentioned that the guy has a previous murder convicting.

Can't believe you'd accuse someone of making something like this up -- for what purpose?


Beats me. Just doesn't ring true to this skeptic.

But nice to see that last night's arresting officer had a subpeona ready for you early this morning. Quick.
64 posted on 11/06/2001 11:34:59 AM PST by Greenpointer
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To: ventana
V's wife - All excellent points. I have an uncle who is a transit detective. (and it's transit that normally handles something like this.)

Fuji here should just respond with the precinct number and cops name and I'll be back here and not only apologize but write a glowing note on his heroism. (after a couple of phone calls.)
65 posted on 11/06/2001 11:46:45 AM PST by Greenpointer
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To: Fujiwara
WOW!

The worst thing to happen to me on the 1 train lately has been a guy throwing up all over himself in my car. I notice more homeless guys begging for money again.

Theeeerrrrrrreee BaaaacckkkkkkKK!!!!!!!

66 posted on 11/06/2001 11:50:49 AM PST by finnman69
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To: Greenpointer
That way he can tell the Grand Jury, and trial jury if it gets that far, that he is appearing to testify because he was subpenaed as opposed to being biased against the guy.
67 posted on 11/06/2001 11:55:05 AM PST by Thud
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To: Fujiwara
Somebody owes John Rocker an apology.
68 posted on 11/06/2001 11:58:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Fujiwara
The No. 1 local is known as "The Bernard Goetz" by the old timers.
69 posted on 11/06/2001 12:00:34 PM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: SuziQ
This is really good news!

AMEN!


70 posted on 11/06/2001 12:07:47 PM PST by Elsie
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To: Fujiwara
Hey...isn't it illegal for a non-cop to carry a gun in New York? Sounds like NYC needs more gun control!! (\sarcasm)
71 posted on 11/06/2001 12:11:26 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot
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To: SW6906
FYI Tokarev 9mm has no safety.
72 posted on 11/06/2001 12:14:46 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: Greenpointer
Telephone Number for Midtown North Precinct is 212/767-8400

Case is People v. Roger Reid (aka, Ahmed Abdul Rahim) Case #: m01094764

You can also contact Assistant District Attorney Chad E. Sjodquist 212/335-3878

I'll be expecting that apology from you and venata (and his wife)- by the way I smoke Cohiba's (Dominican not Cuban)if your interested in making an apology that matters:)

73 posted on 11/06/2001 12:16:58 PM PST by Fujiwara
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To: Fujiwara
Guess you shut them up, huh. Must admit I was skeptical as well.

Hang in there and welcome to FR.

74 posted on 11/06/2001 12:45:40 PM PST by Blueflag
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To: Fujiwara
Sincere apologies delivered. Freerepublic is a great place, welcome aboard. Sorry--I'm a little protective about it. V's wife.
75 posted on 11/06/2001 12:48:27 PM PST by ventana
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To: ventana
I agree that FR is a great place and understand healthy skepticism... so thank you for your well recieved apology.

The point of the story was not self-congratulations (Despite the kind words from many Freepers -I actually did very little) - my point (small, obvious one though it may be) is that the events of 9/11 have been effectively a call to arms for a lot of crazy dangerous people and that we all need to be just a little more aware.

76 posted on 11/06/2001 12:58:43 PM PST by Fujiwara
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To: Thud
Yes, it does. But it also has a per-capita rate of cretins that is much lower than New York.
77 posted on 11/06/2001 1:28:42 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Fujiwara
Glad this guy had no plan. Take Care.
78 posted on 11/06/2001 1:32:05 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Fujiwara
Then they check his waistband where they find A LOADED 9 MILLIMETER HANDGUN, with one in the pipe, gun has no safety.

Glocks don't have external safeties, just internal ones.

79 posted on 11/06/2001 1:33:44 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Alberta's Child
Use of a wasp defrazmylizer as an anti-cretin device takes either an evil mind, a high degree of desperation, or both.
80 posted on 11/06/2001 1:35:46 PM PST by Thud
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