[syriacus]

Gee they were here long enough to be involved in the OKC truck bombing and the WTC van bombing.

See alsoTwo Indians being quizzed by FBI

and

Police grill families of suspects

I think that Mohammed Azmath, second guy from the left, is the same guy as John Doe#2 (the one on the far right) who is , who was supposedly seen with McVeigh around the time of the OKC bombing. I posted a response on 10/26 that said I thought he was. Was Tim McVeigh an agent of Iraq? .

Since then I've posted a 'merged' picture that shows a slightly transparent picture of Doe #2 placed over the picture of Azmath.

More recent threads on FR, concerning anthrax and Azmath's former roommates in New Jersey, makes me even more certain that Mohammed Jaweed Azmath is John Doe#2.

HUNT NARROWS FOR ANTHRAX SOURCE [feds home in on 1 postal route]

INS holding 2 men seized at apartment (anthrax letters - HANDWRITING link?)

(L to R, 1. Khan, 2. Mohmmed Azmath, merged picture of Azmath andJohn Doe#2, John Doe #2) I think Azmath (Pic #2)--looks like John Doe #2, especially around the eyes, but he is a little older and thinner. An eyewitness thought John Doe looked like a Cuban, and this guy looks like an angry Ricky Ricardo.

Also Azmath (pic #2) was suspected of being associated with someone involved in the WTC Van-bombing. Sounds similar to the OKC truck bombing.

[Roger_W_Isom]

I THINK????? If i didn't KNOW better I'd SWEAR THOSE TWOPICTURES WERE THE SPITTIN' IMAGE!!!. GRill the CREEP over what he KNOW About the MYSTERIOUS Micheal Bresia(sp???) show Brecsis piture to the people who knew him and I'll wager ANYTHING they match PEOPLE!!!!

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

BTTT!

[texasbluebell]

Take a look at this article, OKC.

[syriacus]

This article shows that the two men have been in the US 9 years (long enough to be here for WTC bombing and OKC bombing) and lived in same neighborhood as men who were involved in 1993 WTC bombing.

Two Indians being quizzed by FBI

P BALU, NIHAL KOSHIE AND RAM KARAN
TIMES NEWS NETWORK HYDERABAD: Two men from Hyderabad, Mohammed Jaweed Azmath and Ayub Ali Khan, are among several suspects held in the United States in the wake of last Tuesday's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. Azmath and Khan are said to be residents of Doodh Bowli in the Old City. It was the families of Azmath and Khan who noticed their pictures being flashed on television as two persons arrested from a train as suspects in the terrorist attacks.

Earlier, Azmath and Khan's families had contacted the relief helpline set up by the state government at the Secretariat here and gave the two men's names and details such as age and local address. According to their families, Khan and Azmath had planned to take a plane from New Jersey to Texas on September 11, but decided to take a train instead after the terrorist attack. Meanwhile, an agency report from Washington said the two men, when arrested from a train at Dallas, claimed they were Indians, and have been detained and taken for questioning in connection with the devastating terrorist strikes in the USA in which more than 5,000 people are feared killed.

Ayub Khan (51) and Azmath (47) were taken into custody on Sunday at a railway station in Fort Worth, Texas and were flown to New York for questioning. They were in custody "in the strongest possibility we have yet" in the nationwide Federal Bureau of Investigation probe,Texas law enforcement authorities said.

A New York report said the duo had told the authorities that they were Indians but Texas authorities said the men lied about their nationality and had no legitimate identification. The two men had $5,000-10,000 in cash and box cutters of the type used by the 19 terrorists who commandeered the hijacked jets that they smashed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon on September 11.

Authorities said Khan and Azmath had flown on Tuesday from Newark, New Jersey, on a flight bound for San Antonio, Texas but which was diverted and forced to land in St Louis after the attacks in New York and Washington.

The authorities said the two men then got on an Amtrak train but were pulled off it on Wednesday in Fort Worth for a drug check, which targeted several passengers at random.

The two were being held on possible immigration violation, although they were taken to New York for interrogation by the FBI’s joint terrorism task force. Law enforcement sources said they were trying to find out if Azmath and Khan could be linked to a doctor from San Antonio, who is also in custody, according to CNN TV network. The authorities on Saturday afternoon also searched the Jersey City apartment the two men had been sharing located in the same neighbourhood of some of the conspirators who plotted the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

According to their landlord in New Jersey, both men lived there for six or seven years and they worked at a stationery store in New York. According to Rabouth, the landlord,Azmath was recently out of the country for several months. Their neighbours in New Jersey, according to reports, said the duo were seen nearly every day, leaving very early and coming home late for the past several years until they disappeared about a week ago.

[LaBradford22]

It's nice to see that the "my child could never do something like this" excuse crosses cultural boundaries. These parents are simply in denial...

[BunnySlippers]

HYDERABAD: "My son can never do such a thing,"

We have heard this same thing from EVERY ONE of the parents of these guys!

[FR_addict]

You got me to searching for more connections, I never knew about this before:

All of the above raise some very serious questions. Near the top of the list are questions concerning how Hussain and his fellow former Iraqi soldiers got into the country and what kind of security investigations, if any, were conducted. During 1993 and 1994, President Clinton brought several thousand "former" Iraqi soldiers to America for "resettlement." Under angry prodding from the American Legion and the VFW, Congress expressed feeble "outrage" and called on the President to halt the program. The Administration never provided Congress with the information it had requested on the "resettlement." It may be, of course, that Mr. Hussain and his comrades are perfectly innocent immigrants seeking asylum from Saddam Hussein’s evil clutches, as they claim. But it should be remembered that when "master bomber" Ramzi Yousef entered the U.S. on an Iraqi passport in 1992 he also claimed to be seeking asylum and claimed to be a member of a Kuwaiti resistance group fighting Saddam Hussein. And he was not the first. Many intelligence reports had cited the aggressive effort by Saddam to infiltrate his agents into the U.S. during and after the Gulf War. In fact, the Washington Post reported on January 28, 1991 that, according to "highly classified U.S. intelligence reports," Saddam Hussein had "dispatched more than 100 terrorists, both experienced and novice, to try to infiltrate the United States." What would be the political fallout if it were discovered that Mr. Clinton’s Iraqi "defectors" had a hand in the OKC bombing?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo14no19/vo14no19_mideast.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1995/vo11no18/vo11no18_john_does.htm

[BlueHorseShoe]

Check out these pictures.

[CWOJackson]

The size and shape of the heads are totally different.

[Johnny_Apollo]

To me, John Doe number two always looked like one of the guards that is shown in the video when mcveigh is led from the jail to the car. I know it sounds crazy, but if you ever see that video again or have a copy, look at him. He looks like a Mexican American.

[aristeides]

More news on Azmath and Khan. I didn't know until I read this that they were out of the country, in India, between January and July. They presumably got instructions from somebody, while they were in India, to go back to New Jersey.

[aristeides]

How come father Mohammed Jahangir and son Mohammed Azmath have different names? Did Azmath change his name for some religious or cultish reason?

[gumbo]

Gee they were here long enough to be involved in the OKC truck bombing and the WTC van bombing.

Great catch! We can only hope the FBI are putting two and two together too. (And not being ordered off the trail.)

[gumbo]

Family members said... "we are sure they would not have indulged in terrorist activity..."

Riiiiiiight. Seems to me that's what Mohammed Atta's father said too, back home in Egypt.

And that's what that EgyptAir pilot's (al-Batoutie's?) family said too: "We're sure he didn't intentionally crash that plane."

[the808bass]

"This nice house is thanks to the hardwork my son has put in the US.He can never be part of any such terrorist attack," Jahangir said.

What did these guys do that they were shipping enough money back home to buy a house? Does this jive? Or is this a kickback for services rendered?

[bvw]

Simple cosmetic eyebrow plucking could account for one difference between JD2 sketch and Azmath foto. In the sketch the eyebrows are inverted V, Azmath's are thick and straight. If it was Azmath at OKC with plucked eyebrows, they could have grown back by now.

[Ann Archy]

Yikes!! It's HIM!!

[syriacus]

Indians in FBI custody get a lawyer

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

HYDERABAD: Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Azmath Javeed, the two Hyderabadis arrested in the US in connection with the September 11 attacks, have been provided a legal counsel by the US law enforcement authorities.

‘‘On Friday, the law enforcement authorities confirmed that Ayub Ali Khan is in the Brooklyn facility, but said he has a lawyer and knows why he has been detained,’’ The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

In a letter written to his family on October 19, Ayub Khan had said that he did not have access to a counsel and telephone.

‘‘We are relieved to some extent. At least now they got an opportunity to prove their innocence,’’ 70-year-old Gul Begum, Ayub’s mother, told Times News Network.