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Atheist Questions the Practice of Halloween...
Sir Francis Dashwood | 10-31-01 | Sir Francis Dashwood

Posted on 11/03/2001 5:06:55 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood

It never ceases to amaze me that most Christians would criticize me for being an atheist, yet they will "celebrate" a macabre pagan holiday. They inculcate their children into the practice of it and feed them the most unhealthful things you could give a child to eat.

Likewise, many atheists criticize me for being a "right-winger." Most atheists are so caught up in their polemics, they have become nothing more than anti-Christians - or what I call the Religious Left (a collaboration of the Marxist religion, neo-pagan animal/tree/earth worshipper eco-fascists and general technophobes).

Why do you "celebrate" on certain "holidays," what are you celebrating, do you really know? Or have you been so lost in the conformity of it all to really take a look at what you partake in?


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To: america-rules
Who really cares?

God?

121 posted on 11/03/2001 9:00:38 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
This is the ONLY Halloween Picture we want to see;

Osama Yo Mama

122 posted on 11/03/2001 9:08:00 PM PST by stlrocket
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To: Dog Gone
Um..how about the religious significance it still has to pagans and wiccans today? Plenty of em still around, I've known many in my time, and Halloween is their high holy day.
123 posted on 11/03/2001 9:08:51 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Tell me about it... The way certain "christians" defend their 'right' to celebrate halloween, you'd think they were wiccans.
124 posted on 11/03/2001 9:10:17 PM PST by goodieD
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To: redhead
Truly. We celebrated by going to church. In the Catholic Church, the last day of October and the first day of November are holy days, when we pray for all who have gone before us, including the saints. No costumes. No parties. Some candy (blush...).

November 1st is All Saints Day and the night prior to that is Hallow eve --so I consider Halloween as a Catholic Holiday--we are really honoring the dead and to be exact--the dead Saints. I love Halloween and I eat a bunch of candy!!!!

125 posted on 11/03/2001 9:10:37 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Pouring myself another glass of Piesporter...

Whatever makes you happy paisano, have another drink, but you are still screwed up!!!Merry Christmas to you too, do choke on it! Have another Piesporter...

126 posted on 11/03/2001 9:11:39 PM PST by danmar
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To: america76
. Why Christians cannot is perplexing. I see it as the Devil watering down the occasion with sugar and spice

Exactly. Satan is the master deceiver. Does anyone really think that he would try to turn people away from God by doing things that are disagreeable to people? He does what he always does, appeals to peoples sense of greed and self.

127 posted on 11/03/2001 9:12:03 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: goodieD
Tell me about it... The way certain "christians" defend their 'right' to celebrate halloween, you'd think they were wiccans.

This is part of what I call into question. Who is being "served" ???

128 posted on 11/03/2001 9:22:20 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Otto von Bismark
Whatever makes you happy paisano, have another drink, but you are still screwed up!!!Merry Christmas to you too, do choke on it! Have another Piesporter...

A most delightful German wine...

129 posted on 11/03/2001 9:33:40 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Satan and the candy manufacturers maybe?
130 posted on 11/03/2001 9:33:57 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Don Myers
Most God-Believing families don't observe pagan holidays.

My neighborhood : Trick or Treat families = 99.9% High rate of Pagan Holiday observing families. Most of these families are good, Christian families. Even the churches here in Cumming, Ga (including the good, old Southern Baptist ones) had Halloween parties for the children. [BTW, Santa Claus has been known to show up at the Christmas parties at the churches.]

Does Santa visit you home? Has the Easter Bunny has ever stopped by your house? The Tooth Fairy? Has Jack Frost paid a visit to your lawn on a crisp fall morning? Did you ever look at a rainbow with your kids and mention the pot of gold at the end? What about St. Patrick's day? The leprechaun wasn't a disciple. Did you or your kids ever dance around the Maypole at school? (am I dating myself?). You have never read your kids Fairy Tales (Hansel & Gretel, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella et al?--)

Face it, all of our religious holidays & most of our social customs have a pagan remnant. Somewhere along the way, the message became "And God said, let there be no fun in life." And having fun, innocent fun became a sin.

God judges us, not other Christians. Certainly, not atheists. My question was a valid one. Whether or not the children in a religious home go trick or treating should be a non-issue to an atheist. He doesn't have a dog in that fight so to speak.

131 posted on 11/03/2001 9:38:36 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: goodieD
Hecate?
132 posted on 11/03/2001 9:38:51 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: farmfriend
I like my steak rare.

My steak moos.

133 posted on 11/03/2001 9:47:56 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Who is being "served" ???...

Mom for one...it is a standing policy in our house that Mom (me) gets the Toostsie Rolls. :-)

134 posted on 11/03/2001 9:52:32 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
indeed. now if you could find a goddess of candy you'd have the magic combination. wait a minute.. i thought I was the goddess of candy...oops.
135 posted on 11/03/2001 9:57:04 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Mom for one...it is a standing policy in our house that Mom (me) gets the Toostsie Rolls. :-)

Love those too.

What ever it is I think I see, becomes a tootsie roll to me.

136 posted on 11/03/2001 10:04:18 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
A bt off topic, but have you read Eric Towers " DASHWOOD : The Man and The Myth " ?
137 posted on 11/03/2001 11:03:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: yooper
One Sgt Hulka bump!!
138 posted on 11/03/2001 11:24:55 PM PST by Nitro
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Personally - I find most aspects of halloween disturbing. All Souls's Day can help, I find - as a restorative. It is partly the ghastly commercialism but mostly the truly pagan feeling display of all of it. What could be just a little fun for the kids is turned into a full scale ritual of kids on the make.Witchcraft is not fun.
139 posted on 11/04/2001 2:21:36 AM PST by Gimlet
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To: OWK
But of course if they were behaving like Christ instructed, they wouldn't have drawn the criticism to begin with.

And of course you always know exactly how Christ would have behaved...

140 posted on 11/04/2001 3:12:55 AM PST by Goblins
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