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Hijackers were targeting White House - controller
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| 25/10/2001 11:49:52 AM
Posted on 10/25/2001 4:04:12 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:11:57 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: maquiladora
I wonder how soon we'll see apologies and retractions from the Dowd Crowd?
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:12:00 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
I saw the ABC show too. Pretty chilling stuff.
To: backhoe
Oh, those will be out any day now. Yes, Maureen Dowd and Peter Jennings will definitely come out and say they were wrong to immediately start attacking the President as their first instinctive response on September 11.
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:15:52 AM PDT
by
babble-on
To: maquiladora
Good post. Thanks!
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:21:42 AM PDT
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Bogie
To: backhoe
I wonder how soon we'll see apologies and retractions from the Dowd Crowd? I trust that you are not holding your breath ;-)
To: maquiladora
BTTT
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:32:59 AM PDT
by
Guenevere
To: maquiladora; TomGuy
Truly chilling! Thanks for the post (and for the video link, TG). Hard to imagine what the effect of having the White House hit would have had on America's morale. Wonder if our response would have been swifter and more severe or if we would have been even more stunned and panicked?
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:34:51 AM PDT
by
SusanUSA
To: maquiladora
The story from a different perspective. That sense of frustration those controllers felt is the same engine that drives America now to seek revenge. I too sat there and watched ignorance and hatred destroy lives and buildings, and I wanted to do something -- anything -- to stop it. I'm sure most other Americans felt -- and feel -- the same way. All we can do now is stand together and declare "Never again!"
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:37:42 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: TomGuy
Thanks for the link.
I watched the interview last night on 20/20 with the Dulles Air Traffic Controller. I don't think I took a breath as she described the tower scene.
Spread that ABC link all over the place, if you can. Many here don't watch 20/20, and everyone needs to read the truth of what went on that day.
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:43:21 AM PDT
by
YaYa123
To: YaYa123
Yeh, there were many on FR last nite arguing against the facts (such as saying the plane turned 180 degrees, not 360; why did the hijackers miss the White House, etc.) and they very apparently didn't even see the 20/20 program. Amazing how some tended to argue points out of ignorance and refused to accept the facts (from those who did watch).
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:52:33 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: backhoe
You will never see apologies from the looney left crowd.As a matter of fact this was created during their watch.Remember Clinton/Gore?They dismantled the nations whole security system and the Democrats under Daschle are still doing it by not voting on Conservative Judges that Bush wants right now.While America is crumbling before their very eyes Dumocrats are still playing politics.Maybe the Democrats can bring in,with the help of INS enough illegals to make this country into their dictatorship. We have upwards of 8 million and if the government thinks that it must be closer to 12 million.Remember in the last election they know 3 million illegals voted.If we dont secure our country we lose it.
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posted on
10/25/2001 4:55:16 AM PDT
by
gunnedah
To: maquiladora
Have they started blasting this controller yet, calling her a nut and/or slut? [sigh]
Anyways, I didn't watch the show, but I saw the preview. I'm glad this came out to make the naysayers look even MORE foolish.
Were they targeting the White House and Air Force One? We'll probably never know for sure. Did the Secret Service and the Administration take prudent security measures. Darn right they did!
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posted on
10/25/2001 5:05:44 AM PDT
by
Coop
To: maquiladora
Bump
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posted on
10/25/2001 5:31:46 AM PDT
by
ELS
To: maquiladora
Here's what I said on last night's thread started on this same story:
"When Cheney appeared on Meet the Press the Sunday after the attack, he said at the time that that was what they theorized -- that the plane couldn't find the White House and therefore went after the Pentagon. Maybe 10 days after that, it was stated that that theory turned out to be incorrect. In fact, they said, radar established that, at all times, its target was the Pentagon. They believed that the plane was initially too high and too fast, so it had to loop around and hit the Pentagon from another direction."
I hope no one would interpret this as saying that the White House was NOT under attack. I think it's pretty clear he White House WAS. If it wasn't this plane, it was another one, that thankfully did not make it.
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posted on
10/25/2001 5:33:46 AM PDT
by
Amore
To: Coop
What if they would have hit the White House? What if? What would be the mind set today? Military targets? Did this blunder save us from blind rage response? Did this blunder avert WWIII? Did this plus Pittsburg change the course of history? The answer is probably yes. Amazing.
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posted on
10/25/2001 5:35:54 AM PDT
by
kingh99
To: maquiladora
"The plane left Dulles heading west at 270 Deg and turned off its transponder which reads out the altitude and provides an ID which is translated to its flight number (like AA77 whatever) The controllers noticed right away and all by themselves, I can assure you. The little symbol just goes out. There is still a primary reflection from the plane (as it is not a Stealthy plane). The controllers were watching that primary reflection which is weak and without ID and without Altitude readout.
The media is simplifying the flight path that they actually took, but you can follow it like this... from the 270 heading they turned 180 deg to 90 deg heading east to DC. Coming in over DC at over 400 knots at low altitude, unless you pick up a reference point early, you start to see a blur of white buildings and green trees. The Mall doesn't even stand out, and as you get close to the Washington Monument, it disappears and starts to look like a golf tee.
He was most likely trained to look for the Potomac River to set a frame of reference. Now, this is where the 360 came in... he turned to the right to find the White House and could not ID it. Still turning to the right he completed a 360 circle in the general area of Downtown DC. Now his heading would again be 90 deg heading east, and he just gave up and picked out the Pentagon on the Potomac, as his secondary target. This jives with a local media report heard here in DC that morning. It mentioned a plane circling over the WH and going into the pentagon. That same media report mentioned a fire burning on the mall. The report of the fire has disapeared from the media, but I believe it was intended to be a more visible landmark recognizing that this problem might occur. (More later)"
138 posted on 10/24/01 11:28 PM Eastern by Stealthy
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posted on
10/25/2001 5:47:55 AM PDT
by
ironman
To: babble-on; backhoe
No, Dowd and Jennings won't apologize; they'll call up ELF to organize a protest at the White House because the President was hiding behind a "grove of trees."
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posted on
10/25/2001 6:04:22 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
To: maquiladora
This is exactly what military planners protested to FDR over the shape of the new military headquarters.
(read about almost to the end)
Link
Coincidently, construction on the Pentagon began on September 11th.
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posted on
10/25/2001 6:07:21 AM PDT
by
suroc
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