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To: maquiladora
"The plane left Dulles heading west at 270 Deg and turned off its transponder which reads out the altitude and provides an ID which is translated to its flight number (like AA77 whatever) The controllers noticed right away and all by themselves, I can assure you. The little symbol just goes out. There is still a primary reflection from the plane (as it is not a Stealthy plane). The controllers were watching that primary reflection which is weak and without ID and without Altitude readout.

The media is simplifying the flight path that they actually took, but you can follow it like this... from the 270 heading they turned 180 deg to 90 deg heading east to DC. Coming in over DC at over 400 knots at low altitude, unless you pick up a reference point early, you start to see a blur of white buildings and green trees. The Mall doesn't even stand out, and as you get close to the Washington Monument, it disappears and starts to look like a golf tee.

He was most likely trained to look for the Potomac River to set a frame of reference. Now, this is where the 360 came in... he turned to the right to find the White House and could not ID it. Still turning to the right he completed a 360 circle in the general area of Downtown DC. Now his heading would again be 90 deg heading east, and he just gave up and picked out the Pentagon on the Potomac, as his secondary target. This jives with a local media report heard here in DC that morning. It mentioned a plane circling over the WH and going into the pentagon. That same media report mentioned a fire burning on the mall. The report of the fire has disapeared from the media, but I believe it was intended to be a more visible landmark recognizing that this problem might occur. (More later)"

138 posted on 10/24/01 11:28 PM Eastern by Stealthy

18 posted on 10/25/2001 5:47:55 AM PDT by ironman
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THE TAPES: 'We Have Some Planes,' Hijacker Told Controller [Full Story]
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Source: New York Times
Published: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 Author: By MATTHEW L. WALD with KEVIN SACK
Posted on 10/15/01 8:39 PM Pacific by JohnHuang2

'We Have Some Planes,' Hijacker Told Controller

By MATTHEW L. WALD with KEVIN SACK

WASHINGTON, Oct. 15 — American Airlines Flight 11 had fallen mysteriously silent. The air traffic controller called over and over for a response. None came. Then he heard an unidentified voice from the cockpit: "We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you'll be OK. We are returning to the airport."

The controller, confused, asked, "Who's trying to call me?"

No response. Then he heard the voice again: "Nobody move please, we are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves."

The man was apparently trying to talk to the passengers, but he was transmitting on the frequency monitored by pilots and air traffic controllers, and his voice was the first hint of the horror of Sept. 11.

Transcripts of the communications between pilots and controllers, obtained by The New York Times, capture the dawning awareness of the terror in cockpits and control centers. Knitted together with interviews and other documents, they offer a previously unseen view of how, moment by moment, a bell-clear and routine morning turned to confusion and then to horrific inevitability.

In the cool, clipped jargon of aviation, signals of unprecedented disaster bounced between the ground and the air as airline and military personnel struggled to understand and then control the chaos.

The first sure sign of a hijacking was picked up by United Airlines Flight 175, which left Boston for Los Angeles at 8:14 a.m. Just after it took off, the air traffic controller had asked for help from other pilots in finding Flight 11, which was already missing.

"We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS," the pilot reported at 8:41 a.m., just after takeoff. "Sounds like someone keyed the mike and said everyone stay in your seats."

Within 90 seconds, his plane became the next piece of the unspooling disaster. Flight 175 took an errant turn off its scheduled course to Los Angeles and ceased communication with the ground. "There's no transponder, no nothing, and no one's talking to him," the controller said.

And at 8:50 a.m., an unidentified pilot said over the common frequency: "Anybody know what that smoke is in lower Manhattan?"

Flight 11 had struck the north tower of the World Trade Center just minutes before, and the air traffic controller's repeated calls for Flight 175 were met with another awful silence.

At 8:53, with Flight 175 screaming south over the Hudson Valley toward the south tower at 500 miles an hour — more than double the legal speed — the reality was becoming clear to the controller on the ground on Long Island. "We may have a hijack," he said. "We have some problems over here right now."

But he knew just half of it.

Moments after the first jet hit the World Trade Center, a controller in Indianapolis was trying to make contact with American Flight 77, which was flying from Dulles Airport outside of Washington to Los Angeles. The pilot had confirmed receiving directions to fly towards a navigation beacon at Falmouth, Ky., but then failed to respond to repeated calls from the ground.

"American 77, Indy," the controller said, over and over. "American 77, indy, radio check. How do you read?"

By 8:56 a.m., it was evident Flight 77 was lost. The Federal Aviation Administration, already in contact with the Pentagon about the hijackings out of Boston, notified the North American Aerospace Defense Command of American 77 at 9:24, 28 minutes later. Fighters scrambled immediately.

The F.A.A. controller called American's dispatch office in Dallas and the dispatcher there to try to raise Flight 77 on a different radio, but failed.

At 9:09 a.m., the American dispatcher said he could not reach Flight 77, but said the company had "an unconfirmed report the second airplane hit the World Trade Center and exploded." He seemed to suggest American 77 might be that plane, but in fact American 77 was racing back over Pittsburgh, toward Washington.

At 9:33 a.m., the same air traffic controller at Dulles who had handled the perfectly normal departure of American 77 about 70 minutes earlier, spotted an unidentified blip on the radar screen. The Dulles controllers called their counterparts at Reagan National Airport to report that a "fast moving primary target," meaning an airplane with no transponder, was moving west, headed toward the forbidden airspace over the White House, the Capitol and the Washington Monument.

A Dulles supervisor picked up a hot line to tell the Secret Service at the White House. The president was in Florida, but Vice President Dick Cheney was in the White House; Secret Service agents hustled him into an underground bunker there.

At 9:36 a.m., National Airport, which was on American 77's flight path, asked a military C-130 cargo plane, taking off on a scheduled flight from Andrews Air Force Base — in Maryland, on the other side of the district of Columbia — to intercept and identify the fast-moving target. The crew of the C-130 said it was a Boeing 757, moving low and fast.

The airplane was headed for the heart of Washington. But as it crossed the Pentagon at perhaps 7,000 feet — the exact altitude is uncertain because its transponder had been turned off — it began a 360- degree turn to the right that brought nearly to ground level. It crashed into the west side of the Pentagon at about 9:30 a.m.

At impact, it was moving at well over 500 miles an hour, which both maximized the destruction and made the plane easier to handle. Investigators later determined that it had been flying on autopilot on its path over the Pentagon. Pilots use autopilot to minimize their workload on long days and to assure a precise course and smooth ride. What the hijackers had in mind is unknown.

Just minutes before the crash at the Pentagon, United Airlines Flight 93, flying from Newark to San Francisco, went off course near Cleveland. It now appears that Flight 93 received a warning of the hijackings.

Cutting through the background noise in the cockpit of Flight 93, the crew would have heard the sound of an electronic "ping" like one that might announce the arrival of e-mail on a home computer. It was a text message coming by radio, from a flight dispatcher near Chicago. In green letters on a black background, it said, "Beware, cockpit intrusion."

The message was sent by a dispatcher, sitting at the "transcontinental" desk at United's operations center near O'Hare International Airport, who had been assigned to follow both 175 and 93, as well as 14 other airplanes that morning. After United 175 was confirmed to have been hijacked, he sent the message to all the planes he was monitoring.

In the cockpit of Flight 93, Captain Jason Dall and his first officer, Leroy Homer, continued westbound. Living in the last few moments of the pre-attack world, there was no particular reason for them to react radically.

"Getting a message like that on any day in the U.S.A., well, I'd think, `those poor bastards," said one aviation official. "Then I'd think, `it's already happened, it's probably not going to happen again.' "

Since Sept. 11, details have emerged of a struggled between hijackers and passengers on Flight 93. According to people involved in air- traffic control, the F.B.I. seized the air-traffic tapes of the conversations with that airplane. But according to a person who heard the tape, "a very noise sound of a confrontation was heard on the frequency, very garbled, but with some discernible phrase like, `hey, get out of here!' "

There was the sound of a foreign language on the frequency; controllers thought it was Arabic.

Flight 93 crashed in the woods of western Pennsylvania at 10:10 a.m. But before the final cockpit intrusion of the morning, one of the pilots apparently turned to the e-mail unit that carried the warning from Chicago, touched a button that made the screen display a keyboard and typed a one-word reply.

"Confirmed."

By the time the F-16's from Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Va., arrived, the damage was already done.

At both Langley and at Otis Air National Guard Base at Falmouth, Mass., on Cape Cod, two sets of fighter pilots were spending the morning as usual: sitting, waiting, and wondering whether they would escape the day without hearing the shrill klaxon blast that occasionally sent them racing to the cockpits of their supersonic jets.

For years, the threat of an incoming aerial attack on the American homeland had been considered so minor that defending the country's airspace had been relegated to the National Guard. On the morning of Sept. 11 the entire country was being defended by 14 planes dispersed among seven bases.

The first call came to Otis about the hijacking of Flight 11 came at 8:46 a.m., six minutes after the F.A.A. had first notified the North East Air Defense Sector in Rome, N.Y., a division of Norad. Six minutes later two vintage F-15's, built in 1977 and equipped with heat-seeking and radar-guided missiles, had been scrambled, according to a Norad timeline.

One pilot was a part-time Guardsman who flew a commercial plane as his day job; the other jet was flown by a full-time member of the Air National Guard.

But the orders came too late. The first plane was plunging into the World Trade Center when the Otis pilots were racing to their jets. United Flight 175 hit the second tower at 9:02 a.m., 10 minutes after the fighters were airborne, when the F-15's were about 71 miles and eight minutes away. When they arrived, the helpless pilots got the first aerial views of the devastation.

The planes at Langley were also scrambled too late to intercept American Flight 77 before it crashed into the Pentagon.

But if United Airlines Flight 93 had not crashed in Pennsylvania, the three North Dakota-based F-16 pilots from Langley — two of them commercial airline pilots themselves — may have faced the nightmarish decision of whether to shoot down the commercial airliner, along with its 38 passengers and crew of seven.

"It kept us from having to do the unthinkable," said Maj. Gen. Mike J. Haugen, adjutant general of the North Dakota National Guard, "and that is to use your own weapons and own training against your own citizens."

The military has not allowed the pilots to be interviewed, and The Times has agreed not to print their names because of security concerns. But details of their activities on the morning of Sept. 11 have emerged through interviews with other Guard officials.

At Langley, the pilot designated as the flight lead, a 33-year-old pilot for Northwest Airlines, was getting a cup of coffee when someone yelled from the television room: "Hey, an airplane just hit the World Trade Center!"

"All of a sudden," said Col. Lyle Andvik, a member and former commander of the unit, "something happens that none of us can believe. They get an order from Northeast Air Defense Sector, the pilots get a scramble horn, and they're down the stairs, out the door, in the jets and off they go. At the time, they didn't realize why they were being scrambled. They didn't realize that other planes had been hijacked."

At 9:30 a.m., six minutes after receiving their orders from the defense sector, code-named Huntress, three F-16's were airborne, according to the Norad timeline. At first, the planes were directed toward New York at top speed, and probably reached 600 miles an hour within two minutes, General Haugen said. Then, flying in formation, they were vectored toward the west and given a new flight target: Reagan National Airport.

The planes, each loaded with six missiles, had slowed slightly to just under supersonic speed, flying at about 25,000 feet, when they heard over their radio headsets that the F.A.A. had ordered all civilian aircraft to land. The next sign of how serious the situation had become arrived in the form of a squawk over the plane's transponder, a code that suggests almost an emergency wartime situation.

"They get the squawk and they've heard that planes are supposed to land and then Huntress says, `Hooligan flight, can you confirm that the Pentagon is on fire?' " General Haugen said, adding that the lead flier looked down and confirmed that the Pentagon was on fire.

Then the pilots received the most surreal order of the awful morning. "A person came on the radio," General Haugen said, "and identified themselves as being with the Secret Service and he said, `I want you to protect the White House at all costs.' "



23 posted on 10/25/2001 6:35:52 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: ironman
That same media report mentioned a fire burning on the mall. The report of the fire has disapeared from the media,

There were a number of fires and explosions in D.C. that morning. Why no mention of them anymore?

36 posted on 10/25/2001 9:06:01 AM PDT by ladyjane
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