Rep. Steve Buyer, IN-R on Fox Demands use of nuclear weapons if Anthrax traced to Terrorists

Fox News Live ^ | 24 OCT 01 | DCBryan1

[DCBryan1]

Im paraphrasing what the Congressment is saying:

"We as a country cannot fear an open discussion {on the use of nuclear weapons)".

We have been attacked by Biological weapons, and as per our 50 year plan, need to fulfill our promise to deter such attacks by using small, tactical nuclear weapons on terrorists strongholds.

If we do not retaliate with weapons of mass destruction as they have used on us, future terrorist attacks with WMD may not be detered and the consequences may be more than we are willing to bear.

Steve Buyer, IN-R

Again I was paraphrasing.

[blaster88]

1) We have no viable target for nukes if we are inclined to use them.
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So, since the terrorists may have used WMD, we have to. If it were your finger on the trigger, who would you blast?

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I disagree that there are no viable targets. Sure there are. I would do the targeting this way: Kabul, Kandahar, and Jalalabad, and two areas in the mountains where bin Laden probably is. I would use 1.2 MT B-83's. If we can show Iraq was involved, add Baghdad to the list.

Even if we had a target, we could and probably should destroy it with conventional weapons.

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If our response to bio attack is the same as to the "conventional" attacks of 9/11, then we are not exacting any higher price for the use of WMD. We are accepting bio attacks as a condition of this war and any others in the future. Bad idea.

The political fallout, in terms of world opinion, would far outweigh any gains we could hope for by the use of such weapons. Are we not the most powerful military on earth? Is it really necessary for us to hunt down cave dwelling cowards with nukes? That strikes me as the equivalent of hunting mice with my .308.

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I don't really care what China thinks. Waitaminute, actually, I do. I don't want them to get any big ideas about bio warfare, either.

This is not about who loves us. It is about survival. Bugs are way worse than nukes any day.

The 'bio' attacks on us have, so far, been amatuerish at best.

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So we should wait until they are more successful? That is simply immoral.

[MississippiMan]

Our response should be a lesson to terrorists that their friends and neighbors who hide them will be treated as enemies as well.

And there is the salient point of how wars are won. They're won when the risks are too great to chance another one. I've been saying since 9/11 that surgical strikes that punish only the guilty would be worthless, because if you kill a thousand you can expect ten thousand to take their place. They've proven that their lives mean nothing to them; good grief, they think we're doing 'em a favor by sending 'em to the land o' virgins. The innocent must suffer -- as did our innocent -- if you expect to stop it.

MM

[Republic of Texas]

Rumsfeld/Buyer 2008!

[Lilly]

Go STEVE!!!

[Clinton's a rapist]

They obviously have no knowledge of the effects nor take into consideration the backlash that would be used by such action.

Unlike you, most of us here have some acquaintance with history. We all very familiar with the effects of nuclear weapons and the kind of response they produce from the targeted nation. Remember: NUCLEAR WEAPONS - DEVELOPED IN THE USA - FIELD-TESTED IN JAPAN.

[Hit & Run Poster]

If Greenpeace is spreading anthrax, ship them to Afghanistan, and proceed with nukes as planned!

[Hit & Run Poster]

"I would rather congress start kicking arabs out of the country. When they do this then I will be ready to discuss nukes. Untill then it is just another issue for them to blow smoke about. They are not serious about protecting the american people yet."

I don't agree with your logic. What's wrong with doing both simultaneously?

[Hit & Run Poster]

"Who cares what kind of weapons we use? If we can defeat them with pea shooters that's fine with me. I believe that winning is the best deterrant, as long as the objectives by which victory is measured are valid and properly defined."

Oh, so I guess we really didn't need to nuke Japan after all...

[blaster88]

Precisely - we have not had to fear an attack from Japan since August 1945.

[Hit & Run Poster]

"Rumsfeld/Buyer 2008!"

The old prostate gland will be kinda gittin' up in years by then...but hey, if he wants to run, he's got my vote!

[mom of 2 GOP kids]

I agree that nukes should be used but what if it turns out to be an Amerircan Terror group that is responsible?

That's easy. Dress them in drag, and drop them in the center of Kabul.

[Hit & Run Poster]

"Do we have bunker buster nukes?"

They are under development, waiting resumption of underground testing..see article in 11/01 issue of Popular Mechanics...also see the V12 concept Caddy, 750 hp...this punk pulls up next to you in his SVT pickup...hehehe

[bert]

He did not demand anything. I heard hi say we should have discussion on the subject. Your post is as bad as the Post.

[MassExodus]

Will do.

[callisto]

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[Grampa Dave]

ZC posted re possibility of Green Terrorist spreading Anthrax:

"No brainer. Drop them off in Afghanistan (of Iraq) first. Then start bombing."

How about letting them clean up the Post Offices and targets of their mailings with no rubber gloves and masks. Then no antibiotics whent they get Anthrax!

[Grampa Dave]

ff posted, "Using special powers granted to the executive branch have all wackos tried for sedition, treason and inciting violence. Give them all one way tickets to Cuba."

How about making them swim for Cuba with a lot of chum in the water behind them to encourage them. I understand the sharks off of Floriduh have been quite hungry this year!

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting this link/article on the B61-11.

Sounds like someone in our military was thanking about Islamic terrorist/mass murdering thugs like OBL hiding in caves, when this weapon was developed. About 30 to 50 B61-11's would probably seal up an eliminate any cave in a 20 square mile area where OBL is hiding and sending his young camel thumpers out to commit mass murder!

Use the B61-11s, seal up the caves and just move on. They couldn't even find him and his lieutenants to make martyers of them! These B61-11s should handle Saddam and his mass murderers and their weapons of mass destruction!