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Should Conservatives Support Rudeness? Why booing Senator Clinton is beneath us.
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Posted on 10/23/2001 1:51:57 PM PDT by watsonfellow

First of all, to prevent the flamings, I should say that I am a strong conservative, and my number one issue is the life issue and so I am not at all a supporter of the Clintons etc.

That being said, I thought it the height of rudeness for these firemen and policemen to boo and yell at the Senator this weekend. It lacked dignity and class. I thought we conservatives were supposed to stand for such things, or perhaps this is just what we say, but do not practice.

I wonder what Burke et al would have said about this conservative embrace of very questionable manners.

The policemen and firemen should have just done nothing when she appeared on stage, no clapping, no booing, the silence would have expressed the same thing, but in a much more dignified way.


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To: watsonfellow
Would you have prefered a Trent Lott chear?

Gimme a C
Gimme a R
Gimme a U
Gimme an S
Gimme a T
Gimme an R
Gimme a Y

What's it spell?!?

CRUSTY!

What's it spell?

CRUSTY PANTSUIT!

61 posted on 10/23/2001 2:05:52 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: watsonfellow
You don't understand NY culture.

This is not an issue of consevative vs. liberal. It is an issue of truth and honor vs. lies and disgrace.

NY culture is something of which Senator Clinton knows nothing.

62 posted on 10/23/2001 2:05:56 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: watsonfellow
Yeah, maybe turning their backs would have been more polite, but this was NYC after all. Anyone who's ever dealt with Yankee fans has to know that you better be able to take it as well as you can dish it out.

The Senator has repeatedly shown her ruthlessness in dishing it out.

63 posted on 10/23/2001 2:06:01 PM PDT by Catie
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To: watsonfellow
Booing Hillary was absolutely necessary. Maybe it will bring her back to reality a little bit. Although she tries to handpick her audiences, she needs to realize that many New Yorkers DO NOT like her and do not agree with her politics. She is NOT the smartest person in the world. She is NOT New York's savior.

If she is not knocked off her pedestal now and then, she might start believing that she could be President of the United States. That would be dangerous. I'm glad she got her reality check on national TV.

64 posted on 10/23/2001 2:06:09 PM PDT by Doctor Freeze
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To: watsonfellow
But from reading the responses to these postings, I should realize that there is a very strong distinction between populist conservatives and more traditionalist conservatives.

With that pomposity, you're not gonna last too long around here. There's little tolerance for condescending gasbags around these parts.

65 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:08 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: watsonfellow
You are wandering close to the "pacifists argument" here. If you're going to quote More then quote him and not Robert Bolt, whose politics are unfamiliar.
66 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:27 PM PDT by solon_where_r_u
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To: watsonfellow
So your take is that Hillary is free to support terrorists and denounce NY cops as murderers, but to respond by booing her is gauche and inappropriate.

Sure sounds like a winning formula to me, hoss...

The other side understands that ridicule is a potent political weapon. See for example Rules for Radicals by Hillary's mentor Saul Alinsky.

Bear in mind that most leftists are profoundly humor challenged. That's why using political satire against them -- such as FR's own now-legendary 'Sore Loserman' parody -- is so lethal.

It would be a major mistake to refrain from humiliating leftists in the name of 'proper behavior'.

67 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:32 PM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: watsonfellow
It lacked dignity and class.

Perhaps you would have preferred that they just traipse out of MSG. "What a man sows, that shall he and his relations reap." Graves

68 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:38 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: watsonfellow
We get mad when Liberals are rude to our guys and our people,

Naah, we expect it!

and so we must not descend to their level.

If you want to communicate effectively, you have to speak the language.

69 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:43 PM PDT by JZdiablo
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To: watsonfellow
She gets a resounding boo from here! She's a national disgrace. The sooner she and her underlings get that through their heads the better. Boo her every time she opens her yap. When she goes back to the private sector, and stays in the private sector I'll hold my boos.
70 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: watsonfellow
I second the first BOOOOO
71 posted on 10/23/2001 2:08:13 PM PDT by the_alfalfanator
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To: watsonfellow
Ah yes, they were rude.
Now does that make you feel better? Good.
Would you like your mommy to bring you some milk and cookies? Good.
Have you been safely tucked into your Sessime(Sp?) Street sheets? Good.
Sleep tight and when you wake up click your heels twice.
72 posted on 10/23/2001 2:08:16 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: watsonfellow
The policemen and firemen should have just done nothing when she appeared on stage, no clapping, no booing, the silence would have expressed the same thing, but in a much more dignified way.

I don't know about you, but when I drink I get pretty loud and I'm sure these guys felt the same way. Does that make those who boo "evil booers?".

I wish I could have booed Hillary! in person too.

73 posted on 10/23/2001 2:08:25 PM PDT by Skel
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To: Media2Powerful
You call it respectful......the way she behaved during President Bush's address to the joint session of congress and the American people? Your definition is quite slick willie-ish.
74 posted on 10/23/2001 2:08:43 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: MichaelP
Ditto.

She deserved worse. She ought to consider herself lucky.

She has never shown any regard for anyone who opposed her or stood in her way. (White House Travel Office? Fire 'em. FALN terrorists? Pardon 'em. Cops in an accidental shooting? Call 'em murderers.) Why people on the right OR left would feel sorry for her is just beyond me. She is not an innocent victim. She brought every decibel on herself.

75 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:02 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I think that perhaps the police might still be a trifle miffed that she called four of them "murderers" during the jury selection process of the Amadou Diallo trial -- even though they were soon acquitted, and by a jury in the Bronx.

Not to mention the fact that the car she was in practically ran over a cop at the Westchester County Airport just mere days ago, and the officer had to go to the hospital, with no condolences from Her Highness.

76 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:03 PM PDT by jpl
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To: watsonfellow
A scathing, scalding, MUST READ article was published in the Boston Herald this morning. The link is at Boston Herald Article.
77 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:16 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: watsonfellow
pretty rough audience...I agree with you. Compared with other problems we face, most of these Clinton issues are really irrelevant now --especially Monica Blewclintski and Hilary's black pantsuits (she has quite a few for you who think it's always the same one).
78 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:21 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: watsonfellow
At the same time, as wrong as her opinions and policies are and as corrupt as she may be, she is NOT Osama Bin Laden, she is not the enemy

Would please reread the Declaration of Independence and pay very close attention to the part that says "Enemies, foreign and domestic". She is an enemy of freedom and if not for her and her husband's actions which permitted foreign enemies to blackmail them, Sept. 11, may very well not have happened.

79 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:21 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: watsonfellow
while i can understand your point, i have to disagree. how else is this woman going to get the message? how else are people going to see that people don't like the clintons? the media doesn't report it, so when people see this for themselves, it's a good thing. also, there were 30,000 or so people in that arena, most of which were booing here. only about 1/5 of them were police/firemen - so don't generalize it - people don't like them. we all know the reasons why - it's time other people starting knowing it as well. do you want this woman to be your president??
80 posted on 10/23/2001 2:09:47 PM PDT by JustinV
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