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To: Pelayo
"...BECAUS THEY DO NOT CONFESS THAT THE EUCHARIST IS THE FLESH OF ARE SAVIOR..."

It isn't the flesh of the savior. It is something to contemplate. He was here on earth. His body was torn as the bread was torn. And his blood flowed as wine. The communion is a reverent rememberance and contemplation of what was done for us. And True Christians take communion with the Lord each and every time because he is within us. We are the temple. Bread doesn't become flesh and wine does not become blood. Would you like us to take a communion wafer and cup from a catholic church and prove to you that neither contains 2000 year old dna? It can be done. Oh that's right It doesn't really become flesh and blood lest ye all be called cannibals sacrificing the flesh of a man and eating it.. it's merely symbolic; but, anyone denying that it doesn't really happen is anathema.. So it's double talk because your own leaders haven't a clue what it means. Those of us that understand these things understand it very well. We don't need Jesus tied to something to experience his presence. He lives in His temple. And Christians are his temple per the word of God.

Ya'll haven't a clue other than what you're taught. But the doublespeak from your clergy says they're clueless. I know, I know, you have to embrace the confusion and difer to the blind, lest you be in disagreement with Catholicism. God is not the author of confusion. Nor does he possess bread and wine to reveal himself to those who he's supposed to be living in. If you have to eat bread and wine to meet with Jesus You've missed him cause he isn't in either. He's supposed to be in you. You You You. Not the bread, You. Not the wine, You. Now, if he's not in you, are you partaking worthily? You'd best think long and hard about that one. In all seriousness, you are responsible for it.

187 posted on 10/15/2001 6:28:24 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc
Oh that's right It doesn't really become flesh and blood lest ye all be called cannibals sacrificing the flesh of a man and eating it.. it's merely symbolic; but, anyone denying that it doesn't really happen is anathema.. So it's double talk because your own leaders haven't a clue what it means.

No, it is the Body and Blood for real. It is in the form of bread and wine. Christ said it! mt 26:26-28; Mk 14:22-25; Lk 22:19-20. God's word IS, or have you not read Genesis. And remember Is 55:11 "My word will not return... void"

God is not the author of confusion.

No, but the wise will be confused anyway. Lest you have some humility you will not understand His will

240 posted on 10/15/2001 9:02:17 PM PDT by Pelayo
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To: Havoc
Bread doesn't become flesh and wine does not become blood. Would you like us to take a communion wafer and cup from a catholic church and prove to you that neither contains 2000 year old dna? It can be done. Oh that's right It doesn't really become flesh and blood lest ye all be called cannibals sacrificing the flesh of a man and eating it.. it's merely symbolic; but, anyone denying that it doesn't really happen is anathema.. So it's double talk because your own leaders haven't a clue what it means.

Is this a new definition here? "Doubletalk" n. - Anything too complicated for Havoc to understand.

I'll explain it to ya more slowly if you like. You have no conception whatsoever, "dna testing" "it's merely symbolic" you really have no clue.

SD

322 posted on 10/16/2001 7:45:12 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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