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Bread doesn't become flesh and wine does not become blood. Would you like us to take a communion wafer and cup from a catholic church and prove to you that neither contains 2000 year old dna? It can be done. Oh that's right It doesn't really become flesh and blood lest ye all be called cannibals sacrificing the flesh of a man and eating it.. it's merely symbolic; but, anyone denying that it doesn't really happen is anathema.. So it's double talk because your own leaders haven't a clue what it means.

Is this a new definition here? "Doubletalk" n. - Anything too complicated for Havoc to understand.

I'll explain it to ya more slowly if you like. You have no conception whatsoever, "dna testing" "it's merely symbolic" you really have no clue.

Anything too complicated for Havoc to understand. I'll explain it to ya more slowly if you like. You have no conception whatsoever, "dna testing" "it's merely symbolic" you really have no clue.

No, I have a clue - a very good one. He's not really present, but it's symbolic. It's not symbolic, it's an extension of the sacrifice. It's not the sacrifice because it's over, it's the flesh and the blood. Actually, it's not really flesh and blood - it's symbolic....

Circular and intended to keep you from being pinned down. Intended that way because either they don't have a clue what they are talking about or they'd rather other's not know what they really mean. In either case it's confusion. And it is not of the Lord.