Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
| Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
I would go to the buckel of the Bible belt "Oklahoma" there is more false teaching here than you can shake a stick at. :)
BigMack
Beclu
Interesting. Its the laying on of hands, the human physical touch that keeps an aposolic succession going. Again, its something that man does that earns God's blessing.
The Apostles elected Judas' replacement (actually drew lots from among nominees). I don't recall any reference in scripture to the group appointing or electing replacements once local churches were established. Timothy and Titus appear to me to have been Paul's successors appointed by him.
The ancient canons make clear that a bishop must be consecrated by three bishops, thus establishing a practice in which other bishops, by virtue their participation in the consecration (what Paul called laying on of hands), consent to the appointment. It is not clear from scripture whether this practice was instituted by the apostles themselves. I believe it was.
"Theotokos" which the RCC and OC claim means "Mother of God", is a combination of "Theo" meaning "God, deity" and "tokos" meaning "usury, interest on money". Isn't that interesting.
"Mother of God" in the Greek would be "Theometer" with "meter" being the Greek word for 'mother" -- of which the mother goddess "Demeter" is a variation.
"Theotokos" -- would that term refer to "the deity of usury", the deity of money", the "deity of moneylenders -- the god of mammon.
Catholics and Greek Orthodox are being conned big time. If only they understood the words that they used --
SD
Becky
Remember Jesus' great commission? To the ends of the earth. With the church established in Jerusalem, there was no need for Peter or any of the others to stay there.
No, it's something that God does, using man as his instrument. Just because we play a part doesn't mean that the action is ours.
SD
Becky
You have faith the action is God's. I have faith the action is yours.
The definition of the word and its origin have already been explained to you. Please refer back to posts from earlier today. They understand very well the meaning of this word. That you still do not, in spite of your earlier question being answered fully, is a mystery.
2 Timothy 1:6 I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.
Looks like Paul isn't on your side on this one.
Becky
Yes, Israel was set up as a Theocratic kingdom (and will be again when the Lord returns to sit upon David's throne, for the Millennium (Ps.2, 89, 2Sam.7:14, Isa,9:6-7 Rev.20).
The church (the organic body of believers (Rom.12,1Cor.12, Eph.1:23) is not Israel (1Cor.10:32).
This is dispensational theology. It differentiates between the Kingdom of Heaven (as offered in Matthew to the Jews) and the Kingdom of God as mentioned in Luke and Mark.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a literal physical kingdom (as Satan offered Christ in his temptation.)
The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom (Rom.14:17).
The essential difference between Premillennial and Amillennial/Postmillennial is that a Premilleniast does not concern himself with the kingdoms of the world, knowing that things are going to get worse and worse until the Lord returns Himself and takes over (Rev.19).
All others seek to control the kingdoms of the world (both Protestant and Catholic) and thus must use some form of violence, since that is how these Kingdoms are controled (the Lord Himself will use great violence when He returns).
The differences on the nature of the church, the views of the millennium rule,('Pre'/'A'/'Post') the future role of Israel (will be given her unconditional promises made to her in the Old Testament) the differences between the Kingdom of Heaven and of God, all play a major role in determining how one views the combination of church and state.
The 'state' has a role to protect the decisions of those who want to advance the Kingdom of God (the spiritual kingdom) through peaceful exhortation of the Gospel and Scripture. The church however has no role in forcing anyone to accept that Kingdom or to maintain (as in Geneva) a certain level of 'orthodoxy'.
The best works to understand this system are the oldC.I. Scofield and the work 'Dispensational Truth' by Clarance Larkin.
Just like Oral Roberts healing folks. (funny he never goes to hospitals to heal, guess it hard to pass the plate at the hospital :)
BigMack
"Theotokos" -- would that term refer to "the deity of usury", the deity of money", the "deity of moneylenders -- the god of mammon.
Catholics and Greek Orthodox are being conned big time. If only they understood the words that they used --
LOL. LOL. You are a living testament to the adage that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Do you really think that a billion people never looked up words in Strong's? You are insulting in your assumption of foolishness on the part of all Catholics and Orthodox. Shame on you.
Just for fun: tokos childbirth; akin to Greek tiktein to beget
SD
"theotokos"
Pronunciation: "thE-&-'tO-(")kOs, "thA-, -k&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Greek, from Greek the- + tokos childbirth; akin to Greek tiktein to beget
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