Posted on 10/15/2001 6:54:40 AM PDT by malakhi
Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams |
Becky
The fullfillment of the Commandments is Obedience to God. If it's work for you to be obedient, then you can call it work. If you want to play word games, then no, it isn't. Obedience is required for fullfillment of promise. If you can't be obedient, you have no promise. Simple as that. But, then, you need the word games to confuse terminology in order to make the statements harder to follow.
Mine are 24 yrs, and 21 yrs. and have been the greatest joy of my life and what I am most proud of:)
Becky
Thats' not right.
nor do you care to.
That's right.
Yes, but Jesus knew their sin was the love of food, and had to say this to him to show them their sin. It isn't really meant to apply to modern Christians.
We want you to affirm it because it is true and because it will be one instance in which we can agree....
But what about my second question: Why is it not enough for you...(etc)?
Here's one: http://www.hti.umich.edu/r/rsv/
If you go to "Browse the Bible", you can select individual books. The Apocrypha are listed at the bottom. I think they have a few things here that are not even in the Catholic Bible as well.
Mine are 24 yrs, and 21 yrs. and have been the greatest joy of my life and what I am most proud of:)
Becky
We agree (that's my wife and I, not the "royal 'we'"). Also - pray. Alot. Alot alot. (I know you knew this too, I'm reminding myself). We ought to start a day where we post pictures of our kids to show off God's design (not as a competion "OK, the Catholic kids are cuter... they must be right"). You guys with adult children would get special dispensation (ask a Catholic) to post older pictures or pictures of grandchildren depending on where the Spirit leads you :)
We should always pause before assuming that something "doesn't apply" to modern anything.
LOL! I don't miss much on these threads. ;o)
Unless you are looking at a different scripture this is what I was referring to?
Becky
Well, maybe not as much as Havoc is... ;o)
But yes, I have three cats, and I know what you mean.
I think it was Angelo that pointed out "Binding and Loosing" was a matter of interpretation of the law. Interpretation does not include creating new law, it means understanding and applying what's there - fleshing it out. The RCC has created it's own definition of that term too.
Becky
I thought I covered this by saying, you agree to these authorities when you join a Church on your own free will, re-read the post.
Of course the Spirit guides this process, but He appears to be guiding you in all diferent directions (methinks He has a sense of humor?)
He certainly does, and that may be one of the things he likes about us.
Just as the fruits of the Holy Spirit are manifested in hundreds of different ways from Acts to Reverations, so we show that same Spirit in our diversities.
Tell me, which of the 12 apostles and Paul, James, Jude or Mark were alike?
Please show me scripture where it says that the proof of the Holy Spirit is that we will all speak as one, and be identical. (^g^)
A question for you: Why do you suppose Mary "did not understand the saying which he spoke to them"?
Luke 2:51 And he went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and his mother kept all these things in her heart.
Luke 2:8 And in that region there were shepherds out in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And an angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were filled with fear. 10 And the angel said to them, "Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which will come to all the people; 11 for to you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be a sign for you: you will find a babe wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger." 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, 14 "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men with whom he is pleased!" 15 When the angels went away from them into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, "Let us go over to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has made known to us." 16 And they went with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. 17 And when they saw it they made known the saying which had been told them concerning this child; 18 and all who heard it wondered at what the shepherds told them. 19 But Mary kept all these things, pondering them in her heart. 20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all they had heard and seen, as it had been told them. RSV
Becky
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