Posted on 10/14/2001 11:20:44 AM PDT by Asmodeus
Really??
This list reveals that ??? is the man to watch...
How do you pronounce ????
Is there a reason that the name of the next Pope isn't listed above? Does St. Malachy actually predict a name?
show me the proof of 'Saint Malachi'
Why would they prevent him having that name? Malachi never predicted names.
The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel. While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.
These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc. For example, the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses. Again, the name accords often with some remarkable and rare circumstance in the pope's career; thus Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his journey when pope into Germany, by his long career as pope, and by his expatriation from Rome at the end of his pontificate. Those who have lived and followed the course of events in an intelligent manner during the pontificates of Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X cannot fail to be impressed with the titles given to each by the prophecies of St. Malachy and their wonderful appropriateness: Crux de Cruce (Cross from a Cross) Pius IX; Lumen in caelo (Light in the Sky) Leo XIII; Ignis ardens (Burning Fire) Pius X. There is something more than coincidence in the designations given to these three popes so many hundred years before their time. We need not have recourse either to the family names, armorial bearings or cardinalatial titles, to see the fitness of their designations as given in the prophecies. The afflictions and crosses of Pius IX were more than fell to the lot of his predecessors; and the more aggravating of these crosses were brought on by the House of Savoy whose emblem was a cross. Leo XIII was a veritable luminary of the papacy. The present pope is truly a burning fire of zeal for the restoration of all things to Christ.
The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivoe. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.
PROPHECIES COME TO SCREEN: 'END OF THE WORLD' FILM US DUMPS
UNITED STATES distributors have pulled out of talks about a major new movie about an Irish saint who predicted that the world would end soon after the reign of Pope John Paul II.
The move comes against the background of the attacks on America and the bombing of Afghanistan.
End of Times will star top Hollywood actor Martin Sheen as a renegade monk who tries to head off disaster by blocking the election of a world leader.
The producer of the huge project says until recently the prophecies of St Malachy seemed 'far fetched'.
But Ted McDonnell of Orient West Pictures told us: "Now it has taken on a new sense of urgency."
Sheen, who starred in legendary Vietnam movie Apocolypse Now, plays a monk who tries to head off the appointment of the leader.
He believes that man would start the global war known in the Bible as Armageddon.
Said McDonnell: "Unfortunately the subject matter which seemed quite esoteric and far-fetched some months ago has scared off American distributors.
"Luckily though, the financial backing is European."
End Of Times was written by Limerick-born writer Justin Cleary.
It's based on the prophecies of St Malachy who laid down his warnings on a yellow parchment scroll in 1140.
Said McDonnell: "The film will juxtapose between the contemporary modern day and the dark ages in Ireland.
"We'll be filming in a monastic site in Co Kerry as well as modern-day Rome and various capitals throughout the world.
"A desperate Father Nicholas, a Dominican Friar, played by Sheen, tries to warn world leaders of the doom they are about to wreak upon the whole world."
St Malachy famously predicted the name of every pope since the 12th Century reign of Innocent II.
He was born in Co Armagh in the year 1094 into a wealthy chieftain clan.
He was a gifted speaker and became a monk before travelling the length and breadth of Ireland in an attempt to reform the church.
St Malachy feared it was subsiding into Pagan Celtic practices.
He also thought to do away with the custom of married monks passing on the priesthood to their sons.
For his tireless efforts he was made Bishop of Ireland.
Later in middle age he made a 16-month pilgrimage to Rome.
On an early summer evening in Rome in the year 1140, whilst in the company of a band of Irish monks, he had a series of startling visions.
Bishop Malachy later wrote down the visions on yellow parchment in Latin and told his frightened companions that God had given him a vision of every pope to reign - after Innocent II - until the end of time when he said the world would be judged.
Before returning, Malachy presented Pope Innocent with a manuscript containing 111 prophecies.
The parchment remained largely forgotten in the Vatican's archives for more than 450 years, before a Benedictine historian uncovered the details of the pontiffs.
St Malachy accurately predicted the consecutive lineage of 52 popes.But after the current John Paul II there's only one more pope left to go before Judgment Day.
The producers of End Of Times are hopeful of having a hit on their hands and making a few dollars before time runs out.
"I certainly hope St Malachy got it wrong," joked Ted O'Donnell.
"If Malachy was around in our age he would be in hot demand as a script writer of action and adventure movies, he was after all a very eloquent and articulate scribe."
Directed by Jorge Levinsen, it is scheduled for release next year.
The prophecies of St. Malachy present the mottos of the popes, rather than the pope's names. The next one is said to be "Gloria olivae". Other people later read the prophecies and tied the pope's names to the listed mottos based upon various circumstances of their lives, apparently.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18)
If you find this list credible (and it's not the sort of thing any Catholic is obliged to believe), there could be more intervening popes between JPII's successor and this hypothetical Peter. Alternatively, Peter may actually be the same as the last one listed, since none of the popes except him are named, and even in his case the name might be an allegorical reference to his office. Without a strong sign from God, would any pope venture to name himself Peter II?
Nevertheless, let's hope that the College of Cardinals doesn't do what it sometimes does after the long reign of a strong pope. Namely, pick a very old man as a compromise candidate, while they take more time to deliberate the matter. God's will be done, but the world needs another strong leader like JPII.
This is just another example of the Barnum Effect. If you say something broad or vague enough, people will see a connection to themselves or someone else. This is a bunch of bogus hooey.
If you are a Christian believer, Jesus says of the end of times no one knows when it will happen, not even Him, only the Father. That the Christ will return as a "thief in the night" when no one expects it. So, essentially, anybody who claims to know when the world will end, from a Christian perspective, is trying to say that he knows better than Christ. That is a pretty amazing statement for a 'Christian' to make.
People continually claim that this that or the other fulfills prophecy. My favorite book as an example of this was written in the 1860s explaining how Napoleon III was the anti-christ and the world was going to end in 1870-something... Sheesh.
I believe you're right.
The next Pope will be Godly, and the one after that an apostate. it's Believed that John Paul II takes these prophecies very seriously, and that is the reason he has been so determined to stack the College of Cardinals with as many conservative, old-school bishops as possible...
To block the path of the apostate.
These are a little vague, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
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