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Anti-war protesters rally in London
BBC ^ | October 13, 2001

Posted on 10/13/2001 11:45:27 AM PDT by sarcasm

Protesters march through London

Thousands of anti-war protesters have marched through London in a demonstration against the military air strikes on Afghanistan.

The CND-led march from Marble Arch to Trafalgar Square reflected growing concern in some quarters over the US-led bombardment, organisers said.


War is not the answer, you can't fight fire with fire

Darren Johnson,
Green Party
Police said about 20,000 people had taken part in Saturday's demonstration, which followed the sixth night of US air strikes.

Campaigners also staged a march in Glasgow, while demonstrations against the strikes were taking place in a number of other countries including Germany and Australia.

At the London march, protesters carried placards bearing messages such as "Socialist Worker. Stop This Bloody War. Fight US/UK imperialism".

Others said: "CND says not in my name" and "CND says peace & justice for all".

The marchers chanted "No war" and "We want peace". They blew whistles and banged on drums. Though noisy the mood was peaceful.

'Indiscriminate' strikes

Nigel Chamberlain, of CND told the BBC that it was vital that people collectively voiced their opposition to the UK Government's support of military strikes.

Christine Moores from South East London
Protesters against the air strikes have held vigils at Downing Street
"We think very strongly that this bombing action that is being supported is counter productive and is breaking up the coalition that has been carefully built in the past.

"And it might well encourage further terrorist acts."

He said there was a substantial minority across the country opposed to this action.

Mr Chamberlain said it was vital to send out a strong message not just to the British government but also to the American government and governments worldwide.

He said the US-led strikes were protracted and indiscriminate, not proportionate, targeted or limited as promised.

"Civilians do die as a result of bombing raids.

Afghan refugees arrive in Pakistan
Six million people are at risk of starvation, says the Green Party
"The refugee crisis is accentuated.

"Tempers are inflamed in the Muslim world against it.

"It is making it much more difficult to pursue the political, diplomatic and economic coalition that was being built.

"We absolutely agree that the perpetrators must be brought to justice."

The London rally was originally planned as part of the International Day of Protest to Stop the Militarisation of Space.

However organisers have turned their attention on the strikes against Afghanistan.

International court

Speakers at the rally included Darren Johnson, leader of the Green group on the Greater London Assembly.

He told the crowds: "There are thousands and thousands of us here today for peace and justice.

"The messages here are very simple - stop the bombing of Afghanistan, end the war now and stop the militarisation of space - scrap the National Missile Defence system."

He said those responsible for the US terror attacks should be brought to justice by legal means in an international court.

"War is not the answer, you can't fight fire with fire. It will only create more bin Ladens."

The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain supported the rally.

Its leader Dr Ghayasuddin Siddiqui called on community elders and leaders to "channel the disquiet felt by the youth over the war into a peaceful protest campaign".

CND chair Carol Naughton said the demonstration had been "incredible".

"We expected a lot of people but this just shows that there really is a big upsurge of people who are opposed to the conflict in Britain," she said.

The rally was told another major protest would be held on 18 November.


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Nigel Chamberlain, of CND told the BBC that it was vital that people collectively voiced their opposition to the UK Government's support of military strikes.

Appropriate last name.

1 posted on 10/13/2001 11:45:27 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
CND?
2 posted on 10/13/2001 11:55:04 AM PDT by DKM
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I say take their word for it. Make their neighborhoods a police and army free zone and let them deal with terrorism on their own. I have had it trying to input some sense in the heads of peace nicks.
3 posted on 10/13/2001 11:58:40 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
War,an idea whose time has come.
4 posted on 10/13/2001 12:01:57 PM PDT by tet68
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5 posted on 10/13/2001 12:03:12 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: sarcasm
The Brits need to revive their old Falkland Islands spirit:
"Pip, pip, and let's have a war!"
6 posted on 10/13/2001 12:08:27 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: sarcasm
That's the first thing I noticed.

Nuclear disarmament is another catch phrase of the Communists.

It sounds warm and fuzzy until you realize that we would either be dead or a lot poorer without nukes.

7 posted on 10/13/2001 12:12:18 PM PDT by GEC
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To: MadIvan
Are y'all out there FReeBritannia-ing them? Give 'em hell...
8 posted on 10/13/2001 12:12:32 PM PDT by austinTparty
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"We absolutely agree that the perpetrators must be brought to justice."

And what method do they suggest? Waiting for more of our citizens to be murdered? IDIOTS.

9 posted on 10/13/2001 12:16:32 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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Free Britannia is still very young - give it a couple more months and we'll have enough for the counter demonstration.

I have to admit, I hate these bastards with a deep, seething passion. They have no idea of reality, and think that just because they think something, it is true.

Parasitical gobshite.

Regards, Ivan

FreeBritannia.co.uk
10 posted on 10/13/2001 12:17:30 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: sarcasm
Green Party

The commies are back in the guise of Druids. Same old inane garbage. The real "green" in their party is all the dope they smoke, which is how they get their "bright" ideas and theories.

11 posted on 10/13/2001 12:20:59 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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(from another thread)

Nigerian cops ordered to shoot rioters

October 13 2001 at 04:55PM
By Emeka Madu

12 posted on 10/13/2001 12:22:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: sarcasm
Some people like to be beaten.

Others like to beat.

Only problem may be keeping the "givers" and the "recievers" teams even.

On with the games!

13 posted on 10/13/2001 12:26:24 PM PDT by G.Mason
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, you are Britain's answer to Alistair Cooke.

What would we do without your insightful postings?

What surprises me about these peacenics is that they would be the first to complain about loss of liberty if Britain became a totalitarian state, a definite possibility if we had not stood up to the Nazis and the Communists.

14 posted on 10/13/2001 12:28:30 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: MadIvan
FreeBritannia will reach critical mass quickly... but in the meantime, remember: "one man with courage makes a majority" -- Andrew Jackson

I, too, am so disgusted with these people that they are not worth my saliva to spit upon them. Patrick Henry always comes to mind when I see them:
"Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

15 posted on 10/13/2001 12:34:46 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: sarcasm
I agree - I actually wondered if he was a relative of Neville's.

These people, I assuming (I'll let our resident Brits reply) represent a small portion of what the actual population feels. If you notice, as in the U.S., the support groups are Commies, Eco-Fascists and the like.

Hint - they're not anti-WAR, they're anti-U.S., U.K., generally anti-Western civilization in toto. Our great good luck is that they are truly exposing themselves for what they are this time, and I'm betting the vast majority of Brits and Americans, who enjoy living in and are proud of, their countries will not side with them.

Plus, the added benefit is that it makes the Left side with the Taliban - a horrendously oppressive regime which tortures women and has rigidly repressed the Afghan people. Just think - average British or American government, or the Taliban - who would you rather side with?

16 posted on 10/13/2001 12:35:49 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: MadIvan
"Free Britannia is still very young - give it a couple more months and we'll have enough for the counter demonstration."

Best of luck to you.

17 posted on 10/13/2001 12:40:26 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: blam
Anti-war protest in Nairobi

Thousands of Muslims in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, have defied a police ban and protested against the American-led attacks against Afghanistan.

Demonstrators came out onto the streets after Friday prayers carrying pictures of Osama Bin Laden, the main suspect behind last month's attacks on New York and Washington.

Banners criticising the United States, Britain and Israel were held aloft and there were chants such as "Down, Down, USA!" and "Allah Akhbar" (God is great)

"Bin Laden is our hero. We, Kenyan Muslims, will always support him," said one banner.

The protest along Kenyatta Avenue and other major roads was reported to be generally peaceful.

< SNIP > Muslims make up about 25% of the population of Kenya.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 12:47:26 PM PDT by sarcasm
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, you are an important voice of encouragement to us and your countrymen and I stand united with you! Sometimes I feel like we stand alone in a righteous cause after watching demonstrators in Western countries on TV. We have to realize that these people are an extreme minority and although many span the spectrum from socialists to anarchists, many are just plain ignorant of the dangers lurking at and inside our doorsteps. They think we can reason with the unreasonable. WRONG! The lines are being drawn now and if we fail to face our adversaries and protect our freedoms and way of life, we are doomed.
19 posted on 10/13/2001 1:15:39 PM PDT by germanicus
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, I was at RAF Greenham Common in 1983, when the first ground launched cruise missiles arrived. All those peace mongering women were camped outside the gate. I don't think the local British liked them much, and I think they were involved with CND. I was in the control tower, when, all of a sudden, we looked up, and saw a car speeding across the infield, across the runway, toward a USAF C-5 sitting on the ramp. This was a few weeks after the Marine Barracks in Beirut was blown up. A 20 year old USAF security policeman, took off after him and hit him head on with his vehicle. Talk about a helpless feeling from the tower, there was nothing we could do, but watch.
20 posted on 10/13/2001 1:40:07 PM PDT by Mark17
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