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State Vet to Smash War Medal
Valley News Dispatch (New Kensington, PA)
| October 9, 2001
| AP
Posted on 10/09/2001 2:00:08 PM PDT by Pistol
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To: Pistol
Great Scott! Let the crying wimp smash his medal. He's forgotten how to be a soldier. He should care more for his fellow soldiers who fell under the sword of the enemy than about his pitiful vanity.Wars did not end with his little escapade in Viet Nam. Many have fought and died
since then in places and circumstances most people will never hear about. He did his service
in Viet Nam when he earned the medal. That was then...this is now. Let him honorably continue his service to his country by keeping his mouth shut and supporting his country and its soldiers.
To: Pistol
"But leave the Purple Heart to the soldiers who conciously fight and die for America."I will qualify this be saying that I am not a veteran, but this man's attitude is just plain wrong, and his timing is downright offensive. By his logic, only members of combat units would be eligible for the Purple Heart. That leaves out all support units, including chaplains and medical/rescue personnel.
Mr. Rosario should be thankful that on the occasion of his wounding, at least he was armed and could fight back. The people at the Pentagon were not. But they are still dead or wounded in the service of their country, while serving at a military installation. These facts are so obvious, I fail to see how Mr. Rosario would not have noticed.
To: Pistol
The US gives out too many medals as it is. The purple heart for being wounded?
The Canadian and British Military do not even award medals to wounded soldiers.
My father was wounded in action serving in Korea with the Van Doos. He got dick-squat for being wounded, and he had buddies who were killed, and they got dick squat.
Stop your whinning.
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:46:48 PM PDT
by
jerod
To: Pistol
It's not a big deal to me. (Brother got PH, posthumously.)
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:46:50 PM PDT
by
aculeus
To: Alberta's Child
How about those three morons who got lost and captured in Kosovo back in 1999? They got PHs and maybe even a Bronze Star or two.
These dipsticks, all 19D Cav Scouts, got separated from the rest of their platoon, were surrounded by villagers (Macedonian, if memory serves me correctly...they weren't even in Kosovo at the time), captured, then carted off to Milosevic without firing a shot. They were all armed with M16s and 9mm sidearms, as well has having a 50-cal HMG atop their Humvee, and of course, the scout's main weapon, a radio. I'm an 11-year Cav Scout veteran, and am embarrassed that these clowns carry the same MOS I did.
Then, as if to add insult to injury, Jesse Jackass went over there and got them released!
I feel for this guy, but his ire needs to be turned against the fact that these three dumba--es got the PH. I believe those who died in the Pentagon are as deserving as any of the PH...after all, they were wounded in enemy action. Nothing says it can't be on our soil.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:48:54 PM PDT
by
wku man
To: Alberta's Child
How about those three morons who got lost and captured in Kosovo back in 1999? They got PHs and maybe even a Bronze Star or two.
These dipsticks, all 19D Cav Scouts, got separated from the rest of their platoon, were surrounded by villagers (Macedonian, if memory serves me correctly...they weren't even in Kosovo at the time), captured, then carted off to Milosevic without firing a shot. They were all armed with M16s and 9mm sidearms, as well has having a 50-cal HMG atop their Humvee, and of course, the scout's main weapon, a radio. I'm an 11-year Cav Scout veteran, and am embarrassed that these clowns carry the same MOS I did.
Then, as if to add insult to injury, Jesse Jackass went over there and got them released!
I feel for this guy, but his ire needs to be turned against the fact that these three dumba--es got the PH. I believe those who died in the Pentagon are as deserving as any of the PH...after all, they were wounded in enemy action. Nothing says it can't be on our soil.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:50:01 PM PDT
by
wku man
To: wku man
Sorry....posted twice.
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:51:02 PM PDT
by
wku man
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: wku man
The Rules of Engagement those guys were under did NOT permit them to start shooting. Small detail.
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:56:07 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: jerod
My father was wounded in action serving in Korea with the Van Doos. He got dick-squat for being wounded, and he had buddies who were killed, and they got dick squat. Gee. The Purple Heart has a history dating back to George Washington. It's been awarded for wounds in battle since (I think) the Civil War.
IOW, it's not just some new thing.
Sorry your dad and friends got "dick squat," but it sounds like you're the one what's whining.
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posted on
10/09/2001 2:57:35 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Pistol
Anyone injured by terrorist attacks while serving in the armed forces or who dies from said wounds is eligible. It's in the danged eligibility criteria for goodness sake. What on earth is there to argue? They deserve it every bit as much as the medals awarded to victims and heroes at Pearl Harbor. I expect you will see some meritorious commendations given to those who saved other victims at the Pentagon as well, and they will have deserved those awards.
To: r9etb
(5) above covers it. I am a Purple Heart member from Vietnam. I consider any soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine injured by the bad guys to be able to be awarded this medal. It is not one you go out and try to win. Yes, they deserve to get it. Period.
To: wku man
These dipsticks, all 19D Cav Scouts, got separated from the rest of their platoon ... I heard it was even worse than that. My source tells me that they had taken their Hummer off-roading just to see what it could do, and ended up crossing the border without even knowing it.
Forget about the medals -- those guys should have spent 25 years in Leavenworth.
To: jerod
Reply to #23: President George Washington commissioned this award. You do not sound American if you are talking about the British. Shut your stupid mouth when you do not know what you are talking about. I know many men who were awarded this medal for wounds received in combat, as was I. It is not an award that a soldier trys to win, however is awarded if wounded by hostile forces. It has long been given since 1776. When we beat the British's asses. So, stuff it.
To: MindBender26
post 9--you could bloww wax right out of your ears if you capped it at the right time -- also called Rub and Scrub
To: Pistol
I am a Navy vet. I was hurt or injured several times during my service. Never was it a result of any kind of hostilities. I would reject a Purple Heart for any of my injuries. The Purple Heart is an extreem badge of honor. To those who have earned it I offer my heartfelt gratitude.
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posted on
10/09/2001 3:12:49 PM PDT
by
Aeronaut
To: Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
I think our mole in SEA has settled it. Angel Rosario with all due respect, all those in the armed service who were injured and/or killed should receive the Purple Heart. Civilians should not and there has been a new medal created for civilians. We were attacked by outside forces just as we were in 1941 and yes those G.I.'s injured and/or killed in the attack were awarded the Purple Heart. Fellow Purple Heart recipient 1969. Semper Fi, Mike
To: r9etb
As my father often said... They'll give you a medal for peeling potatoes in the US Army, and he's no whiner.
In fact he was awarded a 'Mentioned in Dispatches' for valour. It's a simple oak leaf attached his Korean war medal ribbon. There were about 260 Canadians out of 15,000 who served in Korea awarded the MID. And if you ever see a Brit or a Canadian with an actual medal for Valour, like the Milatary Medal. It's because they DID SOMETHING REAL SPECIAL.
The point is, once you start handing out medals for every occasion, it doesn't mean that much. But if it makes you feel good. Go for it.
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posted on
10/09/2001 3:16:03 PM PDT
by
jerod
To: MosesKnows
It was the only symbol of honor, pride and recognition my country had for my conscious effort in the war Most guys I know who received a Purple Heart (you don't really 'earn' it) have other medals and awards as well.
If the ONLY symbol he has of his service is a Purple Heart, I'm thinking that his greatest acheivement in the military was getting shot in the ass or something. No wonder he's upset.
To: go_avs
The charter of the Purple Heart is for anyone that gets pinged or killed ,the September 11 casualties qualify even if it was a cook at the markets buying tomatos,at any veterans meetings the Veterans know from other medals,citation pins and campaign badges,and unit who's who at the zoo ,people like Hackworth know who's of his ilk and who faught and died in 6 world wars singlehandedly taking hill 169 etc on temporary leave from supply.
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