Posted on 10/09/2001 12:20:12 PM PDT by malakhi
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If what your say is true, that wouldn't be a true temptation at all. but just sort of an acting out of a play. That would be a silly and frivolous thing for God to do, don't you think? It also makes the Bible seem like lies, since it says he was truly tempted in all ways, and yet did not sin.
I know that some of you like to package everyone up in your neat little acronyms because then you don't have to deal with the individual, just the name in your encyclopedia that you can copy and paste arguments to, but you can't put me in your cookie mold, what I believe I have learned from my private studies, and from no one else.
I can always be wrong, and I have been before, but these are not salvation questions, but they reflect our personal studies, guided by the Holy Spirit, and that does not mean I can never be wrong, simply different.
Thank you Iowegian, I thought I was alone on this subject.
It may amuse you, but there is a serious point there. conservonator has pointed out what he sees as an inconsistency in Protestant belief. Does the doctrine of sola scriptura measure up to your own standards of scriptural interpretation?
And I would say to him and any other RC who spews this kind of "reasoning": Take the log out of your eye first, then you can clearly see the splinter in the eye of others.
More name calling and faulty packaging. Where did you get the idea that I didn't believe in the Divinity of Christ?
If I ran a factory, and I decided to go to work as a common laborer so I could see what my employees went through, and I told all my board members and executives that I didn't want anyone to know that I was the owner, and I didn't want any interference or help from anyone, if I can't make it, then I'll know that I have put to much of a workload on them.
Now first off, I can't expect help that no one else gets, I have to work a full day, a full week. or month, what ever I had agreed on, now I am still the owner, still the boss, I could still hire and fire if I wanted to, but then I would have gone back on my word, and I never would have known if I could do the same job my employees do, or if I could even do it better.
Until my job is done, I am simply an employee, no more or no less.
I wish I had said that.:-)
SD is just attempting the ancient tactic of labeling his opponents as a heretic from amont their long list of church endorsed "heresies", so as to discredit whatever points they try to make about the RC church. If they can't fit you into one of these, they'll just invent some new "heresies". It a wicked game that has been practiced for centuries against good, true God-fearing Christians, who believe in what the Scriptures say above what others tell them it says.
In what way do you think he could he have failed?
and gave up his divinity for 33 or so years
So the universe when 33 or so years without a God?
and he had to become more and more aware of his past life
Jesus was God reincarnated?
One more thing, please explain this if he was 100% God.
Curiouser and curiouser. What would it mean to be a fraction (say, .375) of God?
The points you raise I take one step further, and say that Jesus was not God at all.
What do you think it means in Romans (in context), where Paul writes that all Israel shall be saved?
Ive taken the liberty of placing the most salient point in bold. The doctrine of sola scriptura is so amorphous that there are no hard and fast standards. This doctrine, like Jell-O will conform to any container you want to pour it into. This most man-made of doctrines has allowed Christianity to devolve into thousands of sects and denominations each with distinct (though admittedly often trivial) differences.
This, rather fluid doctrine of the reformation has splintered the body of Christ into so many disparate beliefs that some sects claiming to be Christian will not even give a nod to the most basic of Christian creeds.
How does the "doctrine of Jell-O", (to paraphrase its lead architect) sola scriptura aid in bringing people to Christ? Was Christs plan a splintered and disjointed body, a map with many routes? If this "many paths to one Christ" theory of salvation is valid than these Christian vs. Christina threads are a waste of time at best and a horrible sin of pride at worst. If there is no "many roads to one Christ", than the doctrine of sola scriptura which provided the vehicle for this "diversity" of Christian thought is an abomination and should be abandoned.
sola scriptura appeals to human pride. Pride in ones ability to interpret scripture. Pride in knowing that the Holy Spirit surly must guide someone so devoted to the Holy Scripture. Pride is the ultimate stumbling block because it is pride that wont let us admit that we are fallible, corrupt and even if guided by the holy Spirit at times easily stumble and revert back to sin. Christ knew our nature, He was one of us: flesh and blood, tempted, humiliated, loved and hated. He never fell, He was, and is, God. He knew we could not be as he is so he left us a Church, The Catholic Church to guide us least we swerve into error. By pride or ignorance we are sure to fall. Christs Grace can save us. There is a map that marks the way and the Church guards the map.
Pride and ignorance are what have kept many, many generations of sheeple in the RC church. Tradition, you know.
My note was a reply to this statement by Soothing Dave.I did not reference you or call you any names.What statement did I make you disagreed with?
In Mathew 15:3-6, is Jesus endorsing Exodus 21:17?
So the universe when 33 or so years without a God?
I said he watched his alter self grow, as a man, and as he grew he became more and more as his God self, but don't forget, his Father was watching over things also.
Jesus was God reincarnated?
He came back as someone else? No, I guess he was his own son though.lol
Curiouser and curiouser. What would it mean to be a fraction (say, .375) of God?
We Christians start out even smaller than that as babes in Christ.Lol
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