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On this Day a Tennessee Boy Killed 25 and Captured 132 Enemy
History Channel web page ^ | 10/08/2001 | staff

Posted on 10/08/2001 12:06:01 PM PDT by the irate magistrate

ALVIN YORK KILLS 25 AND CAPTURES 132:

During World War I, U.S. Corporal Alvin C. York is credited with single-handedly killing 25 German soldiers and capturing 132 in the Argonne Forest of France. The action saved York's small detachment from annihilation by a German machine-gun nest and won the reluctant warrior from backwater Tennessee the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Born in a log cabin in rural Tennessee in 1887, Alvin Cullum York supplemented his family's subsistence farming by hunting and, like his father, was soon an expert marksman. He also earned a reputation as a hell-raiser, and few imagined he would amount to anything but trouble. Around 1915, however, York experienced a religious conversion after a friend was killed in a bar brawl. He joined the fundamentalist Church of Christ in Christian Union and served as song leader and Sunday school teacher at the local church.

Two months after the United States declared war on Germany in 1917, York received his draft notice. Because his church opposed war, he asked for conscientious objector status but was denied at both the state and local level because the small Church of Christ in Christian Union was not recognized as a legitimate Christian sect. Enlisting in the 82nd Infantry Division, he was offered noncombat duty but eventually agreed to fight after being convinced by a superior that America's cause was just.

On October 8, 1918, York and 15 other soldiers under the command of Sergeant Bernard Early were dispatched to seize a German-held rail point during the Allies' Meuse-Argonne Offensive. The Americans lost their way and soon found themselves behind enemy lines. A brief firefight ensued with a superior German force, and in the confusion a group of Germans surrendered. However, German machine-gunners on a hill overlooking the scene soon noticed the small size of Early's patrol. Yelling in German for their comrades to take cover, the machine gunners opened fire on the Americans, cutting down half the detachment, including Sergeant Early.

York immediately returned fire and with his marksman eye began picking off the German gunners. He then fearlessly charged the machine-gun nest. Several of the other surviving Americans followed his lead and probably contributed to the final total of 25 enemy killed. With his automatic pistol, York shot down six German soldiers sent out of the trench to intercept him. The German commander, thinking he had underestimated the size of the American force, surrendered as York reached the machine-gun nest. York and the other seven survivors took custody of some 90 Germans and on the way back to the Allied lines encountered 40 or so other enemy troops, who were coerced to surrender by the German major that the Americans had in their custody. The final tally was 132 prisoners.

York was promoted to the rank of sergeant and hailed as the greatest civilian soldier of the war by several Allied leaders. He was given a hero's welcome upon his return to the United States in 1919 and was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the nation's highest military decoration. In the 1920s, he used his fame to raise funds for the York Industrial Institute (now Alvin C. York Institute), a school for underprivileged children in rural Tennessee. He later opened a Bible school. Sergeant York, the 1941 film starring Gary Cooper, was based on his life. York died in 1964.

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To: the irate magistrate
Not all of us get sucked into the PC'ness. Guys my age don't trust much of anything when it comes to politics and PC'ness.

Many a times myself and friends always say about the PC stuff - "This is so gay"(Gay is also a word for stupid, pathetic, lame, etc).

As for guns, where I'm originally from, a good 20% or so of the high school misses the opening day of deer season. We still have it.

41 posted on 10/08/2001 3:09:39 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: hobbb
Thanks, hobbb.

Be careful with jumping around those trees! You know what I mean.

42 posted on 10/08/2001 3:15:53 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: the irate magistrate
Sgt. Alvin York has always been one of my favorite American heros.
He was and is a fine example of a truely great American.

Thank you for posting this article.
God Bless
43 posted on 10/08/2001 3:23:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: the irate magistrate
Thanks for the ping and the post. It is a great story. I just watched it again not too long ago.
44 posted on 10/08/2001 3:31:37 PM PDT by Badray
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To: the irate magistrate
OK Irate One . . . You asked for it and I found it. Actually, I had forgotten that I wrote it.

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CHILDREN AND SHOOTING

It’s interesting to hear that a few of the Hollywood mannequins and their directors were actually surprised at scenes in a new movie. But, the most interesting point was the utter hypocrisy of it all.

It was Hollywood, after all, that put out films about students shooting up high schools. Hollywood also thought that a long series of bloody slasher films were great entertainment. So too, with a couple hundred urban, suburban and country shoot ‘em ups. In fact, it wasn’t long ago that Hollywood seemed to think that the more human blood and guts splattered throughout a film the better it would do at the box office.

These violence oriented films were, of course, targeted at children and young teens. Many of them received an “R” rating, but that has seldom stopped kids from seeing them. All of the films are also played often on television.

So it was interesting to see that Matt Drudge reported: “A loud ‘gasp’ was heard in the screening room as the camera zoomed in for a closeup of the kids. Shots are fired. Blood splatters on Redcoats. … They go into woods and ambush the Redcoats, killing around 15 men. ‘One son is around 13 years old, the other is 10,’ says an insider.”

The film was the “Patriot,” of course, and the protagonist is shown taking up arms against those in authority who would confiscate personal arms. The offending part to those on the far left is when the hero reaches into a chest and gives his sons rifles. The kids then go out into the woods and ambush Redcoats, killing a few.

So, let’s examine this prevailing Hollywood mindset here: Shooting up people in high schools and slashing people to death at summer camps is fine entertainment, apparently. Protecting ones family, home and neighborhood, on the other hand, is not. Interesting!

There were a couple other shoot ‘em up films about real American heroes a few years back. Lest we forget, perhaps it is time to remember a more modern reason that children should be taught to safely use firearms accurately.

An article in the June 14, 1919 issue of “The Literary Digest,” describes a big bashful, red headed mountain boy from the village of Pall Mall, in Fortress County, Tennessee. This boy grew up where good shooting is the rule, not the exception. However, he was also from a strict religious sect, so when drafted into the Army for World War I, the young man entered as a conscientious objector.

It was said that part of the heroism of this young man was his honesty in changing his convictions when he was convinced that he was wrong. Maybe. But, on October 8, 1918, in the Argonne Forest of France, their came a time when war was all around him and his friends were dying. That was when this young conscientious objector from Tennessee, an excellent rifle and pistol shot from boyhood, blended his civilian and military training into action. As the story goes, he killed twenty or twenty- five of the German enemy, captured 132 others -­ including a major and three lieutenants ­- and put thirty-five machine guns out of action, all in very short order.

That is, of course, part of the saga of Sergeant Alvin C. York, a true American hero. Read more about Sergeant York at: http://ac.acusd.edu/History/text/ww1/sgtyork.html

A few years after Sergeant Alvin C. York returned home, a son was born to poor Texas sharecroppers, one of nine children. That put this young man in the proper age group to fight in World War II. And, herein developed another story of yet another American who learned to shoot at an early age.

By age 12, this Texas boy was already a great shot with a rifle. At that time, his family was very poor, so he quit school to work for a neighboring farmer. When the war started, the 17 year old boy enlisted.

This young man rose to national fame as the most decorated U.S. combat soldier of World War II. Among his 33 awards and decorations was the Medal of Honor, the highest military award for bravery that can be given to any individual in the United States, for “conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty.” He also received every decoration for valor that his country had to offer, some of them more than once, including 5 decorations by France and Belgium. Credited with killing over 240 of the enemy while wounding and capturing many others, he soon became a legend within the 3rd Infantry Division.

Beginning his service as an Army Private, this young man quickly rose in the enlisted ranks to Staff Sergeant, then was given a “battlefield” commission as 2nd Lieutenant, was wounded three times, fought in 9 major campaigns across the European Theater, and survived the war.

Throughout 1944 and 1945, this man continued to stalk and kill snipers. He would not allow snipers to kill his men without revenge. As the story goes, this excellent sharpshooter “out dueled snipers with little or no fanfare.” No matter that the snipers had high powered scopes while the boy from Texas usually used a carbine.

That young man’s name was Audie Leon Murphy, of course.

On Jan 26, 1945, Audie Murphy climbed aboard a burning tank and fought off six Tiger tanks and two reinforced rifle companies, earning what is still considered today as the most famous Medal of Honor act in World War II. http://www.audiemurphy.com/news1.htm

For even more information about Audie Murphy, go to http://www.audiemurphy.com/congress1.htm, and please pay close attention to a poem by Audie Murphy at the bottom of the page. Because, as we speak of great American Patriots this coming Independence Day, that last verse says it all.
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From Heads Up: Issue #186, June 18, 2000

45 posted on 10/08/2001 5:46:32 PM PDT by Doug Fiedor
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To: the irate magistrate
Does anyone have a photo of Sgt. York? I love those old WWI pictures. Plus I wonder how closely Gary Cooper resembled the hero from Tennessee.

Leni

46 posted on 10/08/2001 5:54:38 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: the irate magistrate
Hey, watch it! That's not just some screen name...that's my wife!
47 posted on 10/08/2001 6:09:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Martin Tell
Mr. Tell you do know why Tennessee is called the Volunteer state.I for one can vouch for many a Tennessean who has fought for his country and many have died so you have the freedom to speak. 'Nuf said. Semper Fi, Mike
48 posted on 10/08/2001 6:28:28 PM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
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To: Doug Fiedor; squantos; dog gone; will; jim robinson; basil; Sussa
Thanks for the post Doug!
49 posted on 10/08/2001 6:59:40 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: the irate magistrate
Great Thread thanks for bumpin me. Now I have the 3 dollar question. I have read and heard that York used a Luger versus the 1911 but the war department or hollywood one wanted that fact changed to reflect the 1911 as it was "a better American story".........any truth to that tale ?

Stay Safe !

50 posted on 10/08/2001 7:27:22 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
Read post 32. Just out of curiosity I'm going to continue my search for a direct quote on the pistol.
51 posted on 10/08/2001 7:49:29 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: the irate magistrate
There are a few photos of Alvin C. York in Ned Roberts' The Muzzle-Loading Caplock Rifle that show what a little age can do to the best of us. That old devil time. By all accounts, the Sergeant was more than a good shot- he was a good man (and one who didn't scare worth a damn). May his type never disappear from this continent.

Ed

52 posted on 10/08/2001 8:07:21 PM PDT by niteowl77
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To: Shooter 2.5
I have , and I think I know the answer.....I'm searching too, Stay Safe !!
53 posted on 10/08/2001 8:18:39 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: the irate magistrate
Did you ever see the movie where the consientious Sgt York was portrayed by Gary Cooper?

When I was a elementary school kid growing up in the great state of Tennessee the would show this movie in the auditorium once each year. I still love it.

And I'm pretty handy with a rifle myself!

54 posted on 10/08/2001 8:22:21 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Squantos: shooter 2.5; lurker; doug fiedor; pocat; mercuria; Dan from Michigan
Squantos,

Read post #32 above maybe Shooter 2.5 can shed some light on that.

Thanks, that is a good question.

The 1917 Enfield is logical for sure, in it being a very accurate weapon that would have certainly enhanced Alvin York's deadly aim.

I still have one that has passed down in the family, as well as a Springfield. Would you believe that Dad and I have killed many a deer with that old Enfield? It's actually been more productive than the Mausers that we've had. Although, I really like the smooth Mauser action.

My question would be; was it commonplace for an infantry doughboy to have a 1911 .45 side arm as a standard WWI issue, in the first place? Just think of the opportunity to pick up a Luger and plenty of ammo, from a number of corpses, after the many horrific skimishes in France, in the summer of 1918.

55 posted on 10/08/2001 8:23:09 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: the irate magistrate;squantos;Travis McGee; rightwing2; harpseal; logos; pocat; sit-rep;
I found York's diary. It was a .45 Auto.
56 posted on 10/08/2001 8:30:35 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
Bad link ??
57 posted on 10/08/2001 8:33:29 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Shooter 2.5
DON'T USE THE ABOVE LINK!! IT WON'T WORK!!

here's the address:http://www.alvincyork.org/Diary.htm

58 posted on 10/08/2001 8:34:20 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
Good! That was fast.

I'll follow your link and read it.

Thanks, Shooter.

59 posted on 10/08/2001 8:40:13 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: Squantos
I screwed up on that link but here's the answer that gunwriters have been wondering about for years. God Bless the internet:

So I said, "Let's get these Germans out of here." One of my men said, "it is impossible." So I said, "No; let's get them out." So when my man said that, this German major said, "How many have you got?" and I said, "I have got a-plenty," and pointed my pistol at him all the time. In this battle I was using a rifle and a .45 Colt automatic pistol.

60 posted on 10/08/2001 8:45:13 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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