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UK forces joining attack (WITH YOU AT THE FIRST, WITH YOU TO THE LAST, AMERICA)
BBC ^ | October 7, 2001 | BBC

Posted on 10/07/2001 11:15:10 AM PDT by MadIvan

UK forces are involved in the military attacks on Afghanistan, it has been confirmed. US President George W Bush confirmed UK involvement as he said in a White House address that the US had begun military action. "We are joined in this operation by our staunch friend, Great Britain," he said.

Downing Street also confirmed that British forces are taking part in the operation.

"We can confirm that British forces are engaged in the military action that has begun against targets in Afghanistan," the Prime Minister's spokesman said.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair is due to make a statement at 10 Downing Street shortly.

Cruise missiles

It was reported on the US television channel CNN that cruise missiles had been fired from British and American ships.

About 24 British Royal Navy warships as well as 23,000 British troops are in the region.

They had been sent there before the 11 September US attacks for long-planned exercises with the Omanis, known as Saif Sareea 2.

The leader of the opposition Conservative party, Iain Duncan Smith, said he would make a statement after he had spoken to Downing Street.

It is possible that the Conservative party conference, for which MPs whad been gathering in Blackpool on Sunday, may be cancelled.

Story 2:

Blair pays tribute to British forces

Prime Minister Tony Blair paid tribute to the British forces in action in Afghanistan saying they were "amongst the best in the world".

Mr Blair praised the "courageous" soldiers whose "sense of duty" is renowned "throughout the world".

It has been confirmed that British missile-firing submarines are in action against Afghanistan.

Mr Blair said: "There are dangers in action, but there are also dangers in inaction and those dangers are far far greater.

He moved to reassure people that Britain itself was not under-threat, saying: "There is no specific credible threat to the British people."

He also said that efforts were being made to help refugees displaced by the conflict.

"We are assembling a coalition for refugees from Afghanistan, which is as important as the military action.

"Britain is heavily involved in that humanitarian action."

Mr Blair said: "This is not a war against Islam. It angers me to hear bin Laden described as Islamic terrorist. They are terrorists pure and simple.

Menzies Campbell, Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, said: "These operations have become inevitable.

"The Taleban have been given every opportunity to give up bin Laden and withdraw support from his terrorist network.

"Under international law these are legitimate targets. Every effort must be made to minimise civilian casualties."

"Once again the lives of the brave men and women of Britain's armed services are at risk. We wish them a safe return," Mr Campbell continued.


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To: mdittmar
What's a TOOP,TROOPS!
21 posted on 10/07/2001 11:23:19 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: MadIvan
Thankyou, Great Britain.
22 posted on 10/07/2001 11:23:49 AM PDT by znix
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To: MadIvan
Keep safe.
23 posted on 10/07/2001 11:24:13 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: MadIvan
Fire up those subs, Tony!

We're coming bin Laden, soon you'll meet allah in hell!

24 posted on 10/07/2001 11:25:05 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
Hey, you guys should wonder over to Democratic Underground, they are going nuts over there, its pathetic really.

Who cares. Their "contribution" as such is to add to global warming with all the hot air they spout. ;)

Regards, Ivan
25 posted on 10/07/2001 11:25:57 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: onyx
Do try to post the text of PM Blair's speech when it becomes available!

I'm monitoring Number 10's website for just that. Thank you for your kind wishes - I hope God will keep and protect all my friends and colleagues in the United States too, and their brave military men.

Regards, Ivan
26 posted on 10/07/2001 11:27:12 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
One of the quotes from English literature that comes to mind is one from Charles Dickens: "God Bless us everyone".

Having served with Brits from time to time, let me say that I'm sure glad you guys are on OUR side. It might take a while, but bin Laden and his scurvy crew don't stand a chance.

Cheers, Mate

27 posted on 10/07/2001 11:27:41 AM PDT by BLASTER 14
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To: MadIvan
True, they are good for a laugh or two however, by the way Thanks Great Briton
28 posted on 10/07/2001 11:28:35 AM PDT by Beeline40@aol.com
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To: MadIvan
UK forces joining attack (WITH YOU AT THE FIRST, WITH YOU TO THE LAST, AMERICA)

Ivan, you and I have crossed swords in the past. Honest question.....Do you honestly believe that if Bin Laden and his lackeys are eliminated, that Islamic inspired terrorism will cease to exist?

Do not get me wrong, this SOB needs to die.

Let us assume we kill bin Laden, what next? Now, I'm out here in the middle of America's fly-over country....probably not subject to terror attacks.

It still matters to me. But I have no delusions that the death of ben Ladin will matter. That will energize the rest of the zealots. For a second time I say do not misunderstand me. We need to defuse this situation. I do not have the answer. But rest assured, these Islamic zealots will continue to do these things, with bin Laden or not.

Regards

J.R.

29 posted on 10/07/2001 11:29:28 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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A bit more text from the BBC - still no complete statement yet.

British submarines have launched cruise missiles at Afghanistan as part of the attacks against the Taleban and Osama bin Laden.

Prime Minister Tony Blair said the military base at Diego Garcia, missile-firing submarines and reconaissance aircraft were involved in the attacks.

He said the submarines, which carry cruise missiles, had been used on Sunday night, and the aircraft would be used in coming days.

The decision had not been taken lightly, and that the start of action was a "moment of utmost gravity for the world," he said in a statement at 10 Downing Street.

"But we know that sometimes to safeguard peace we have to fight," he said.

Mr Blair said it was very important that Britain be involved, as the 11 September terrorist attacks were the worst against UK citizens in history.

"This atrocity was an attack on us all, on people of all faiths and people of none," he said.

He praised the global coalition which had been built up in response to the attacks and said the al-Queda network threatened any nation which did not share its fanatical views.

'Immense anxiety'

He reiterated that this was not a war with Islam.

Mr Blair paid tribute to the UK armed forces, saying he knew they were "amongst the very best in the world".

But he said he understood they were carrying an "immense burden" and would be feeling "immense anxiety" - as would the British people.

He said he knew there were dangers in action, but said the dangers of inaction were "far, far worse".

"Britain has learnt that before in its history. We only act when the cause is just and in this case it is just.

"We will not let up or rest until our objectives are met in full."

Mr Blair said there was no doubt in his mind that the US terrorist attacks had been carried out by Osama Bin Laden and his al-Queda terrorist network.

He added that it was also clear that the Taleban authorities in Afghanistan were sheltering him.

"They were given the choice of siding with justice and siding with terror, and they chose to side with terror," he said.

He said action was being taken on military, diplomatic and humanitarian fronts.

And he said the military plan had been put together to avoid as far as was possible civilian casualties.

US President George W Bush had earlier confirmed UK involvement as he said in a White House address that the US had begun military action in response to the 11 September terrorist attacks.

"We are joined in this operation by our staunch friend, Great Britain," he said.

On Sunday evening there were reports of loud explosions and anti-aircraft fire in the Afghan capital Kabul and the city of Kandahar, the main stronghold of the ruling Taleban.

Explosions in Afghanistan

There were also reports of explosions in the eastern city of Jalalabad.

About 24 British Royal Navy warships - led by flagship aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious - and approximately 23,000 British troops are in the region.

They had been sent there before the 11 September US attacks for long-planned exercises with the Oman military, known as Saif Sareea 2.

Britain has previously said these forces would be available to take part in any military action against Osama Bin Laden or the Taleban.

The leader of the UK opposition Conservative party, Iain Duncan Smith, said he supported the action.

It sent the Taleban a strong message that if they refuse to hand over Bin Laden they would suffer the consequences, he said.

Parliament should be recalled at the "earliest possible opportunity" in the wake of the war, he said.


30 posted on 10/07/2001 11:31:04 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Just curious, do you think Franklin Roosevelt was a great "conservative" leader merely based on the fact he stood with Winston Churchill during World War II?

How about Joe Stalin?

31 posted on 10/07/2001 11:31:48 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: MadIvan
I gotta admit, you Brits are tough to understand. A left leaning country that never misses a chance to fight. I may even fly a Union Jack for a while. :-}
33 posted on 10/07/2001 11:32:28 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: MadIvan
Good on you guys Mad Ivan

All the best

Qatar-6

34 posted on 10/07/2001 11:33:01 AM PDT by Qatar-6
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To: NMC EXP
Ivan, you and I have crossed swords in the past. Honest question.....Do you honestly believe that if Bin Laden and his lackeys are eliminated, that Islamic inspired terrorism will cease to exist?

Absolutely not. However if we can make bin Laden's gruesome enough (and I emphasise the word gruesome) perhaps it will make the bastards think twice before hitting either America or Britain.

This is a long, sustained war against Bin Laden, the nations that helped him and terror in general - make no mistake - this war is about making the terrorists pay such a price that others in the future will be reluctant to try it.

Regards, Ivan
35 posted on 10/07/2001 11:33:22 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: BillyBoy
Just curious, do you think Franklin Roosevelt was a great "conservative" leader merely based on the fact he stood with Winston Churchill during World War II?

No, but he did the right thing. Left leaning people do sometimes do the right thing.

As for Joe Stalin, he didn't precisely have a choice in the matter. His country was attacked. He was against the Nazis whether he liked it or not. Indications are that he was happier dealing with the Nazis.

Ivan
36 posted on 10/07/2001 11:35:09 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan ; Lizzy W
B U M P !

Love the keywords.

;-`)

37 posted on 10/07/2001 11:39:22 AM PDT by CARDINALRULES
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To: Hugin
I agree with your #14 Post!
38 posted on 10/07/2001 11:40:27 AM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: MadIvan
"Prime Minister Tony Blair paid tribute to the British forces in action in Afghanistan saying they were "amongst the best in the world".

God bless the UK and her fine military. I am very proud to be an American today and very thankful for our British allies. "WE WILL WIN, make no mistake."

39 posted on 10/07/2001 11:44:38 AM PDT by Mama_Bear
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To: MadIvan
God bless Great Britain!
40 posted on 10/07/2001 11:46:14 AM PDT by ruoflaw
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