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To: MadIvan
UK forces joining attack (WITH YOU AT THE FIRST, WITH YOU TO THE LAST, AMERICA)

Ivan, you and I have crossed swords in the past. Honest question.....Do you honestly believe that if Bin Laden and his lackeys are eliminated, that Islamic inspired terrorism will cease to exist?

Do not get me wrong, this SOB needs to die.

Let us assume we kill bin Laden, what next? Now, I'm out here in the middle of America's fly-over country....probably not subject to terror attacks.

It still matters to me. But I have no delusions that the death of ben Ladin will matter. That will energize the rest of the zealots. For a second time I say do not misunderstand me. We need to defuse this situation. I do not have the answer. But rest assured, these Islamic zealots will continue to do these things, with bin Laden or not.

Regards

J.R.

29 posted on 10/07/2001 11:29:28 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP
Ivan, you and I have crossed swords in the past. Honest question.....Do you honestly believe that if Bin Laden and his lackeys are eliminated, that Islamic inspired terrorism will cease to exist?

Absolutely not. However if we can make bin Laden's gruesome enough (and I emphasise the word gruesome) perhaps it will make the bastards think twice before hitting either America or Britain.

This is a long, sustained war against Bin Laden, the nations that helped him and terror in general - make no mistake - this war is about making the terrorists pay such a price that others in the future will be reluctant to try it.

Regards, Ivan
35 posted on 10/07/2001 11:33:22 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: NMC EXP
That will energize the rest of the zealots.

I think it will too. And I believe that this is what we WANT. If they start to act up, in other places, we CAN and hopefully WILL take action there next.

It will get worse before it gets better, but unless we let the conflict expand and reveal WHO all is involved at the state level, we have no state to target... in the world's view.

NOBODY wants war. We want to increase our level of safety from rogue states and terrorist organizations... This afghan action, is part of the "smoke em out" and "keep em runnin" strategy, I think.

The idea that our cousins and such are all in harms way, when it comes to terrorist attacks as this unfolds DOES bother me... BUT if we don't take THE BAD GUYS out, they are going to do us first... in fact, they already did.

Respectfully.. my opinion, (not solicited of course)

49 posted on 10/07/2001 12:25:17 PM PDT by eccl1212
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To: NMC EXP
Have you missed the President's speech on September 20, and his address to the nation today?

Today we focus on Afghanistan, but the battle is broader. Every nation has a choice to make. In this conflict, there is no neutral ground. If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocence, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their own peril.

Terrorism does not just grow. Umpteen billion angry Muslims does not = terrorism with global reach capable of mass destruction. States are the missing part of the equation, and I think Bush sent a pretty clear message that the party with terror-sponsoring states is still on the schedule.

66 posted on 10/07/2001 2:29:20 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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