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Steel Beams Found by Laborer amid the World Trade Center in Shape of a Cross
Yahoo News
| Oct. 3, and 4, 2001
| Photo/Kathy Willens, Pool and AP Photo/Ed Betz
Posted on 10/05/2001 9:17:43 AM PDT by Teacup
Workers at the World Trade Center disaster site look
up at a large illuminated cross near the
rubble of the collapsed buildings in New York, Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2001...
Firefighters, police, and construction workers join in a ceremony, Thursday, Oct. 4, 2001, at Ground Zero in New York, blessing a cross of steel beams found by a laborer amid the World Trade Center debris two days after the twin tower collapsed. The cross was moved to its present location Wednesday.
Apparently of steel beams was found by a laborer amid the World Trade Center debris two days after the twin tower collapsed. The fire fighter have been very inspiried by this.
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To: father_elijah
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.
To: comitatus
I think the sign of God is not the cross itself, but the response to it by the men who needed the symbol of hope to keep going. Yes! Haven't we all had those times of great need, when we found comfort and strength to keep going, from some smallest "sign." And the fact is, that God is constantly giving us signs of His love and care. It's just that we're not always picking up on them so well. (Just speaking for myself here.)
To: Teacup
#20. Me too, Teacup.
To: sakic
Are you speaking God's intentions for us? We'd prefer His inspiration. Is it not marvellous that it broke off in 4 places that gave it the dimensions of THE cross on which Christ and others, who respected him, died?
To: father_elijah
This cross in the ruins of the World Trade Center is just such a sign -- a remnant of a heinous crime, but it is nonetheless a sign from God, even if in your distress and anger you must reject it as such. What is an example of a bad sign from God?
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posted on
10/05/2001 1:21:07 PM PDT
by
sakic
To: Teacup
I did not see this thread WOW!!!!!!!!
The cross looks so awesome and irefutable in these pics!!!
To: sakic
The cross is not a signWOW! You sound so sure of this. Did God tell you this? Inquiring minds want to know.
67
posted on
10/05/2001 3:37:11 PM PDT
by
Teacup
To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Yes the pictures are awsome.
68
posted on
10/05/2001 3:38:23 PM PDT
by
Teacup
To: nimc
Shudder, let's at least have a non-Romantic Period, Biblically accurate, angel: they were all in the form of men except for the ones that were mixtures of animals and eyes and other weird stuff, not willowy consumptives.
69
posted on
10/05/2001 3:40:36 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: lawgirl
One reason could be that one of the workers made a sign saying: "God's House" and put it at the "entrance" of the Tower rubble they were working on, because of the large number of bodies they were finding.
He said, his group was working and when they looked up, they saw the "cross" with a shaft of light shining on it. They were all overcome with it all. He was a pretty tough guy from New Jersey, so it must have been a pretty powerful sight.
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posted on
10/05/2001 3:46:09 PM PDT
by
Deb
To: sam_paine
Anyway, don't flame me, I'm just saying that this isn't a sign of God, it's a sign of
Architectural Engineering, which I suppose is a minor discipline of God
and Physics.....
No Flames.
I was raised in the fairly austere mainstream Church of Christ tradition...lots of
no-nonsense engineers in our oil-town congregation.
They and I'd probably take the stance that you've proposed.
But if this cross of metal brings people comfort (and some discomfiture to the
ACLU)...it's fine by me!
And if they find a mesh of beams that look like a Star of David or a relic
sacred to other survivors...put it up.
71
posted on
10/05/2001 3:47:05 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: sakic
In the Hebrew Scriptures and Writings whenever the children of Israel experienced plague or attack, they saw it as a sign from God that they needed to repent and humble themselves before God. Anything bad that came upon them they took as a warning and a notice from God to put right their relationship with the Holy One of Israel.
But the point of a 'sign from God' or a 'sign of God' is not whether or not it bespeaks blessing or curse, is good or bad -- rather a 'sign from God' is meant to draw God's people right back to God.
I am not talking about dogma or doctrine here, just a general principle -- if it brings people closer to God, draws them back to God, affirms their sense of God in their life -- then it can be regarded as a sign from God.
To: sakic
You might consider attending another thread if this one is so confusing.
73
posted on
10/05/2001 3:52:39 PM PDT
by
Deb
To: sakic
The cross is not a sign. It's a remnant of a heinous crime ...or a reminder of how far God is willing to go to have us back.
-bc
74
posted on
10/05/2001 3:52:42 PM PDT
by
BearCub
To: Teacup
75
posted on
10/05/2001 4:00:51 PM PDT
by
sarcasm
To: sakic
What is an example of a bad sign from God? Getting hit by a truck.
76
posted on
10/05/2001 4:18:00 PM PDT
by
SGCOS
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To: Teacup, christie, jellybean, stanz, piasa, carlo3b, prodigal daughter
As always, a beautiful contribution to the Forum. Thank you so much!
To: father_elijah
That's a beautiful explanation. I'm not a Catholic either and I'm happy to learn that. Thank you.
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posted on
10/05/2001 5:32:49 PM PDT
by
alnick
To: sam_paine
Will make a nice addition to the memorial site, but really, what are the odds that there was a cross-brace beam configuration somewhere in a skyscraper. Pretty high!
I mean, it's not built on independent 1000 foot poles, ya know. They're all tied together by something under tension or the thing would accordian down to start with.
Anyway, don't flame me, I'm just saying that this isn't a sign of God, it's a sign of Architectural Engineering, which I suppose is a minor discipline of God and Physics.....
The sign of G~d is in the people's hearts response, the hope and belief with which they found cross. They were calling and were answered.
It will make a wonderful addition to the memorial site.
Be Well,
Toni
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posted on
10/05/2001 5:48:32 PM PDT
by
thatcher
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