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POST BOOMERS/PRE X - finally, a thread just for us - Thread 6

Posted on 10/02/2001 9:09:10 PM PDT by WIMom

Last night, there was an anti baby boom thread that started with a rant, and before some disruptor trashed it, some of us who were born at the tail end of the baby boom - from 1956 to 1964 - were having some nice recollections. The things that we seem to have in common are the following:

1. We were too young to serve in Vietnam, but remember the news.

2. As far as we're concerned, the music, television and popular entertainment and heroes of the 60s were and still are a matter for personal taste, and don't represent the shining apex of all civilization, icons to be revered by generations to come - in short, the Beatles were just a band that some might not like, and old Trek was cheesy and not well written.

3. Old boomers came into adulthood at the ideal economic circumstance - we've had to work for ours.

4. Our clothes and music tended to be lighthearted, and we are more conservative/libertarian as a whole than the older boomers.

So post your memories of tunes, movies, shows, fashions, school stuff, etc.

And enjoy yourselves!


Thanks to one_particular_harbour for the fantastic idea!


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To: kmiller1k
So, you never watched Luke and Laura, back in the Day?
61 posted on 10/02/2001 9:52:33 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: WileyCoyote22
White ones and they looked really cool with my poncho.
62 posted on 10/02/2001 9:53:36 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Siouxz
Spirograph used to p*ss me off, because you'd make this beautiful design, and right toward the end, the pen would slip and you'd have a straight line right in the middle of it.

I know what you mean about the Spirograph - I ruined a couple of pictures myself.

63 posted on 10/02/2001 9:55:07 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: WIMom
BUMP for later, after sleep, reading
64 posted on 10/02/2001 9:56:13 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: kmiller1k
Lauren Holly
65 posted on 10/02/2001 9:56:13 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: WIMom
I think those born between 1960-1964 or 1962-1966 (I can't remember which) are called TWEENERS (as in inbeTWEENERS -- as in between boomers and Gen-x). There was a magazine that I remember seeing about 2-3 years ago called "Swing" or something like that that was specifically targeted to this age group.

Does anyone remember this magazine -- it was actually very good, if I recollect...

66 posted on 10/02/2001 9:56:14 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: Rheo
How about those crocheted vests? Or the "Love Story" crocheted hats? With LONG straight hair hanging straight down...
67 posted on 10/02/2001 9:58:01 PM PDT by TexanMom
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To: laconas
I was born in 1960 and remember getting the smallpox vaccine with the gun but I don't have a scar. My mother confirmed that I did receive it.

My husband born in 1969 received the vaccine and he has a scar that is still visible.

68 posted on 10/02/2001 9:58:44 PM PDT by just deserts
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To: WIMom
I've also felt the boomers older than me. A few years back I sent this to the local newspaper, and when it ran I got letters to the editor for weeks:

How I grew to hate Babyboomers

At the age of forty two, I'm at the back end of the bell curve for Babyboomers, that population surge that has defined American culture since the early sixties. The problem is that at my age, I could never actually join the fun and frivolity, I had to be a spectator, watching the "older kids" become hippies, protest the war, experiment with drugs, liberate their libidos and generally shape the world to their new vision. For years I was jealous, longing to just be five years older so I could participate. By the time I was the appropriate age to do something, the novelty was long gone. Damn! Like most everyone around me, I mimicked the Boomers in language, attitude, dress, politics, and choice of music. What choice did we have? The culture they were creating was a monolith, eclipsing the old one with the shear momentum of numbers. The world watched in awe or terror as Everything was redefined to conform to the Babyboomers view of things. Wow.

The problem became that I began to disagree with their views. You know, the standard boomer attitudes about corporate greed, the naivete of patriotism, the hatred of Conservative Republicans, the hypocrisy of Religion, the freedoms of abortion (on demand and paid for by the government), the compassionate welfare state and the general selfishness of the Empowered Boomer mindset. They became the power structure. They became the government and the press. It was assumed that I would inherit all their attitudes, and I did so faithfully for years. I was a loyal subject in their realm.

Do I understand them? Oh yes, I'm in advertising, a career that essentially sells them back their dreams. It's embarrassingly simple. Selling the Fountain of Youth to narcissistic babyboomers is like shooting fish in a barrel.

My problem: I began thinking for myself, and it felt good for a change. I found quickly that when the Boomers said "question authority" they didn't actually want the kids to question THEM. Oh, no. Question only the authority of the World War Two generation, those uptight suits who tried to constrict the Boomers new-found liberation. They were the enemy, not us Righteous Boomers, can't you see? This view was pounded home by the huge number of journalists who dutifully swallowed whole the standard hippie ethic. Their compliance was total. Whoever disagreed was labeled a throwback, Nazi, a racist, mean-spirited, you name it.

There became no room for debate. The subjects were closed. Universities regurgitated the standard liberal philosophy ad nauseam until resistance became futile. Heretics to this Boomer philosophy were shouted down or embarrassed into silence. I know. I was one. Try standing up in a college classroom in the seventies and questioning the pervasive mercenary self absorption of the Boomers... they roasted me alive.

Now these selfish crybabys run everything, and it shows. They replaced their parents values: "Everything for our kids" with their own values: "Everything for us". Discipline was for geeks. Self control was for old people. Let's all be Peter Pan, and never grow up! They insisted that all aspects of their life be free from responsibility.

They wanted free sex, without the old-world constraints of commitment or family. They got it, as is witnessed by their staggering divorce rate and six million abortions. They wanted their values to be accepted so they absorbed the press to play along. They wanted compassionate government, so they ramrodded welfare down the throats of the poor. They wanted to be seen as Nice, so they painted a thin veneer of Niceness over all their actions, in a pathetic attempt to disguise their inherent greed.

Now they've almost ruined everything beyond repair. The Boomers took it all for themselves. The government they now run is more fascist than they realize, because they actually cannot see past the Niceness paint job that they invented. We're stuck cleaning up after their mess as usual, like picking up the trash and beer bottles in the morning while the older partiers sleep off their hangovers. Those lucky bastards, sound asleep and oblivious. God, if only I was born five years earlier!

69 posted on 10/02/2001 9:58:59 PM PDT by moodyskeptic
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To: all
For all you ladies who had Barbies, I found some pretty funny stories about playing with Barbies

here.

70 posted on 10/02/2001 9:59:40 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Sabertooth
I'm late to this thread so I'm curious. Did anyone coin a name for our group(too young to boom, too old for x)?
72 posted on 10/02/2001 10:00:56 PM PDT by secret garden
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To: laconas
I remember in grade school being loaded onto a school bus, taken to the junior high, standing in a long line, and finally getting a shot from a "gun". I threw up on the bus back to the grammer school. I don't seem to have a scar from this shot other than psychological from spewing on the bus back to school.
73 posted on 10/02/2001 10:01:25 PM PDT by kmiller1k
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To: Sabertooth;DouglasKC
My next door neighbor was a member of FOOM and I seem to remember that he was a KEEPER OF the FLAME (K.O.F.)and a real fan of anything Stan Lee put out. My faves were all the old horror comics (3 or 4 short vignettes per issue) like 'VAULT OF EVIL' and 'TALES OF TERROR'. I think I have stuffed away in a box somewhere in the basement some of the old 'pre-code' horror comics that used to belong to my dad. Very cool stuff.
74 posted on 10/02/2001 10:03:22 PM PDT by flushed with pride
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To: secret garden
"I'm late to this thread so I'm curious. Did anyone coin a name for our group(too young to boom, too old for x)?

Well, I threw "Brady Boomers" out there, but didn't get any bites.

C'mon in though, the water's fine.

76 posted on 10/02/2001 10:06:59 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: TexanMom
I always wanted long straight hair. Naturally curly hair with an occasional mom home perm parted down the middle, curled back with a curling iron into turd rolls.

I should have had one of those hats!!

My room was gorgeous tho, big lime green and yellow flowers with orange accents

77 posted on 10/02/2001 10:07:07 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: flushed with pride
As I recall "KEEPER OF the FLAME (K.O.F.)" was pre-FOOM. One could also be a QNS (Quite "Nuf Sayer), RFO (Real Frantic One),and an FFF (Fearless Front-Facer), among other things.
78 posted on 10/02/2001 10:10:05 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: laconas
Hmm...your'e 58 and have a scar, I'm 60 and don't. We have to find out whether 59's have one or not. I'm assuming there was federal unoform policy in place, and not decided on a state by state basis. I'm only assuming this because it would be unheard of today in 2001 that a state would implement a health policy withour federal funds and approval.

My theory - and it's only a theory - is that there was not a uniform policy in place regarding how the vaccine was administered. I'm guessing that some practitioners administered the vaccine using a machine, and some merely used manual bifurcated needles.

Another theory regarding scars or lack thereof is that either A. some were more susceptible to having the disease present as a blister than others, or B. Some vaccines (where blisters were produced, leaving a scar) were effective, while others (with no scar) weren't. I'll look up the resource if anyone's interested, but the info I saw indicates that if the vaccine was not properly administered, no blister will occur - and that some people with skin conditions such as eczema, acne, rosacea, etc. - are simply more susceptible to complications from both the disease and the vaccine. And the resource I saw also states that the location of the vaccine makes a difference as to its effectiveness.

At any rate, it doesn't matter now - smallpox vaccines are only good for 10 years max.

80 posted on 10/02/2001 10:11:51 PM PDT by edayna
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