Posted on 10/02/2001 1:07:50 PM PDT by Drew68
So You Want a Holy War? We have now Islam to deal with. October 2, 2001 1:25 p.m. hatever is or is not authentic transcription of Islamic dogma, we do know that the people who ran the airliners into the World Trade Center believed that a Koranic voice was telling them to do what they did. We have the four-page document that told them not only what to do, but what to think. "Kill them, as God said; No Prophet can have prisoners of war."
They would not cavil, their clerical dispatcher knew, but even so there was a reiteration of the sacradeness of their mission. "Recognize...what God has prepared for believers in endless happiness for martyrs.... Be steadfast and remember [that in] God you will be triumphant."
Here is a strategic suggestion from the Western high command. Declare in full voice that Islam is widely profaned and mistaught. That if it isn't if the Koranic high exegetes are paralyzed with doubt whether such as the Ladenites are true to their faith then the faith being practiced must be disavowed by the legitimists. Say as much and say also that the Western world is prepared to denominate the imposters as such and to call for a restoration of a Muslim religion consistent with civilized conduct.
We have done such a thing in the political world. Without using the language of excommunication as such, what we got around to doing in the postwar world was to exclude Communism as an acceptable model for the organization of political life. We did this because, by our experience with Communism in practice and by the exercise of reason, we judged it incompatible with irreversible advances in human behavior. When finally the United States abolished slavery, the word went out: No more. No Christianity cum slavery. One or the other.
We have now Islam to deal with. We do not need to make the point that its political and economic record is miserable, that only one of 18 Muslim states (Turkey) is democratically governed. There are those who are willing to advertise the individual hypocrisies. A spokesman from the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam party, while calling on his faithful to overthrow the government of Pakistan for the sin of maintaining equable relations with the United States, sends his own two sons to the United States to school. The Taliban has taken unmarried women detected in pregnancy and buried them to neck level before execution. Where is Islamic condemnation of such practices? For that matter, where is condemnation of Saudis chopping pickpockets' hands off?
We read of the mobs in Karachi who denounce the United States and flaunt signs that call out to "CRUSH AMERICA." In a pinch, we have to gamble. Perhaps human nature isn't reliably self-interested enough to prefer liberal democracy to protracted tyrannical misery. But we have to hope that the raw instinct is there to welcome relief. There were Kuwaitis who prostrated themselves with gratitude to liberating GIs, even as there are millions of Afghans who flee the wretched world of their Muslim oppressors where they have been kept alive by American food shipments to Afghanistan and bank now on American food shipped to Pakistan, where they will reasonably hope that before America is entirely CRUSHED we will have stored enough food for them and their children.
It is thought to be a sign of toleration to defer to Islam as simply another religion. It isn't that. It is a form of condescension. Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life. But on September 11th we were looked in the face by a deed done by Muslims who understood themselves to be acting out Muslim ideals. It is all very well for individual Muslim spokesmen to assert the misjudgment of the terrorist, but the Islamic world is substantially made up of countries that ignore, or countenance, or support terrorist activity. Mustafa Kamal Uddin, a 32-year-old body-and-fender man in Karachi, explained it to a New York Times reporter. You see, he said, holy wars come about only when Allah has no other way to maintain justice, times like now. "That is why Allah took out his sword" on September 11th.
We demand to know: Who taught Mustafa Kamal Uddin to reason in that way, and the crowds in Karachi to support such thinking? Pending an answer to the question, and the unmistakable assumption by reputable Muslims of the responsibility to extirpate such misteaching, renounce modern Islam. Either restore the proper Allah or get ready for a holy war.
If there has to be another attack, maybe it could be at Berkeley or some place where the US haters can be found.
Presumably, dropping Buckley's column is not an option.
Thanks! That explains a lot. Wonder what credentials are required to be a mullah - or can anyone just claim the title if they want to and run around issuing edicts and fatwahs?
It wasn't in a speech to Congress. It was an "unscripted" remark he made in response to a group of reporters questioning him on a Sunday afternoon (Sept. 16, I believe) after he had disembarked from the helicopter bringing him back to the White House from Camp David.
He has never used the term since. In fact, from everything I am observing, he seems to be moving toward making peace with his own "Inner Jihad."
Coulter deserved to get canned.
As for the socialist comment, I've read enough of his writings, which are infused with respect and support for the free market system, to seriously doubt that he considers himself a socialist.
Actually, I think this custom was practiced in China until the last 100 years or so. The Christian West abolished the practice.
i find it next to impossible to believe,
unless your remark is wildly out of context somehow.
Allah is EVIL, a deceiver, a bloodthirsty oppresser who laughs 5 times a day when he sees rows of men in robes with their butts in the air. He enslaves the men that Jesus would set free. The men in turn enslave the women and children to their arrogant oppression. They rule by fear and lies, not by faith and love.
Unfortunately, you must make the same kind of selection from the Old Testament to find a Christian or Jewish sect that is consistent with civilized life. It is just that our ancestors did that for us long ago, and we don't even think about the "unpleasant parts" of the Old Testament.
Read Mark Twain's "Letters from Earth" if you want to see particular passages dissected
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I think that there are many churches that function as 'soft' cults run for the profit and esteem of their elders and leaders..power is a strong drug.
I am very careful of my choice of churches for this reason.
..."LETS ROLL!!!!!!!!!"- The late, great Todd Beamer of Flight 93
"Defeat it, or be defeated by it" -Blair (war sure makes strange bedfellows)
I was reading past where my pastor was quoting from Leviticus this past Sunday and read where one should be stoned for using God's name in vain and an example of this being done....Well I would have suffered that fate just today when I lost my mouth and did the same. What Christian church would actually advocate "Joe's Olde Time Church of God" stoning me to death as I sit here at my computer? In fact all churches would come out to denounce this behaviour and think it horrid. You are correct, we pick and choose from our books and don't try to take the entire books as something to imitate page for page.
By reading what he writes and wholeheartedly agreeing with him. If you want to live in the past, go ahead. I prefer to live in the present and look to the future.
And compared to Coulter, writing FUTURE WIDOWS OF AMERICA: WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN, WFB is full of pomp and circumstance signifying nothing.
NR is going downhill fast.
"Who is silent gives consent."
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