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So You Want a Holy War? (William F. Buckley Jr.)
National Review Online ^ | October 02, 2001 | William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted on 10/02/2001 1:07:50 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: ValerieUSA
I feel like we are, or at least I am, living some really bad B movie. Ben Ladin, the evil, fanatical, genious, having wrecked destruction from afar, retreats to his impenetrable, high tech, mountain fortress. Meanwhile 007... Bond....James Bond, undercover as President of the United States musters his forces to destroy evil...at stake...the survival not only of civilization, but the planet.

It's like some crazy movie has managed to tear it's way thru the movie screen into reality. No wonder so many people are frozen in place. I am begining to wonder if the guy really is the anti-Christ.

101 posted on 10/02/2001 8:05:17 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
It's time for the little character Ross Perot to pop up with some charts about now... or maybe he's waiting for a role in the cartoon version of this bad movie.
102 posted on 10/02/2001 8:58:33 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
He has already been cast as Mini Me, lol.
103 posted on 10/02/2001 9:36:51 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Kalashnikov_68;cool guy; be_baw
Thanks, CG, for the bump. Sorry to jump in so late!

It is thought to be a sign of toleration to defer to Islam as simply another religion. It isn't that. It is a form of condescension Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life...

Either restore the proper Allah — or get ready for a holy war.

Sorry, but I think Buckley contradicts himself with this ending sentence. It's like he wants to be all things to all people.

One minute he slams the whole religion, and the next he is saying that Allah has been misinterpreted. The problem is Islam itself.

The fact that there are some very nice sounding sentiments in the Koran does not get around the fact that there are some very hateful ones re Jews and Christian regardless of context. Also, in Mohammed's own life and personal writings, he exhorts to violence against Jews and Christians.

104 posted on 10/02/2001 10:15:15 PM PDT by attagirl
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To: be-baw Travis McGee JohnHuang2 Sawdring
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maybe they should fire WFB like they did Ann Coulter?

105 posted on 10/02/2001 11:56:58 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Yeah, and then the PCers changed "Infinite Justice" too. Are we a nanny nation or what?
106 posted on 10/03/2001 1:56:34 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: GottliebBerger
Every American had better read Buckley's article because he hit the nail on the head square on.

And I assure you all that Mr. Buckley is neither a socialist or a supporter of Keynesian economic theory, both of which have been proven to be mostly garbage.

107 posted on 10/03/2001 2:04:17 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: Terrorista Nada
'The problem is with Islam itself.' How misinformed you are. I'm assuming you've read only sections of the Koran, and that too, out of context. If we start quoting barbaric sentences from holy books the Bible would be right there in front. Any religion can be misinterpreted, Christianity included. Wisen up.
108 posted on 10/03/2001 2:11:33 AM PDT by Pallavi_99
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To: be-baw
...any devout Muslim is an extreme fundamentalist Muslim, and that the peaceful ones are like the self-professed Christians who only go to church on Easter Sunday and Christmas.

You said a mouthful.

109 posted on 10/03/2001 2:17:06 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Pallavi_99
Any religion can be misinterpreted, Christianity included. Wisen up.

From the beginning of time, people have put their own spin on religion to suit their needs for power and control of others. Good point.

110 posted on 10/03/2001 2:18:43 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Servant of the Nine;Goetz_von_Berlichingen
I agree with you in part. No doubt our modern era leaders have sanitized the harshness of the Old Testament but also it must be noted that in the Christian religion that Christ himself and those who have relayed his word took a path which had more to do with personal salvation and all that encompasses than the history of the Hebrews which did in fact contain what would appear to be God sanctioned violence to "Philistines". I not being Jewish cannot attest as to how Talmudic and Rabbinical contributors have "softened" the Torah since the Macabeees. Islam on the other hand has many many instructions from Allah through Mohammed encouraging or allowing ill treatment of non-believers and a host of other externalized edicts that we would view as harsh and these edicts are not simply part of the "story" to be taken out context but are rather guidelines for behavior. The violent path of Christianity (I'm leaving Judaism out since I'm a goy) has infinitely more to do with human manipulation and exploitation than Christ's words. Islam is much more of a warrior religion simply put by it's very nature.

Now I'm obviously no theologian so I will humbly accept criticism from the plethora of FReepers who are.

Regards

112 posted on 10/03/2001 8:32:59 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: GottliebBerger
He's an internationalist for sure but I feel your description is a bit harsh. I've personally heard him speak out against subjugating ourselves to the UN and treaties on a number of occasions. He's a hardly a Brussels type.
113 posted on 10/03/2001 8:38:05 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: GottliebBerger
Well? ... 2001 is the real first year of the millennium and the NWO (Terrorista Nada puts on his tinfoil hat with the Bilderberger patch).
114 posted on 10/03/2001 10:05:53 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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