U.S. Issues Declaration of Emergency for Mad Cow Disease

NewsMAX.com ^ | 9/30/01 | US Secretary of Agriculture

[AgThorn]

For review, awareness and comment.... I did a quick scan to see if this was already posted and nothing this current was found.

[blam]

I thought this disease was always know to be in the wild herds out west?

[TrueBeliever9]

here we go..............

[GVnana]

Here it comes...

[strela]

Time to go ahead and get that side of beef for the freezer?

[MJY1288]

NewsMax = Unreliable, desperation, anything for a headline, and most of all Tin Foil hats

[AnnaZ]

ping

[craig_eddy]

I always check what they say. You can find the declaration in the federal register here.

[MediaMole]

It's a similar disease, but not the same. It has been infecting captive herds of deer and elk in the west for several years. The fear is that it will spread to wild populations and move east.

[zog]

--did you actually go look, or do you just like posting thoroughly idotic statements in a troll attempt? The article said it was published in the federal register, not "unnamed sources". This reply post of yours is forum abuse to the originating poster, no tinfoil hat there, the evidence is clear. You maligned the poster on purpose, just because you own a keyboard and have a nasty foul disposition. You have the option of exercising restraint if you don't trust the referenced source until such a time as the source is debunked, which you are free to do. Given the nature of the particulars in this case, ie, a named federal official and the official publication organ of the US government, you could have checked before you posted your flame. If you had checked, and it was a false statement, then by all means post the proof, but you didn't. It's abuse, clear forum rules violation.

[freefly]

fyi bump

[MJY1288]

First of all, I didn't flame the poster, I have my reasons in questioning anything from NewsMax. I did check the source and as usual NewsMax has titled the article in it's predictable sensationalist manner. IMHO NewsMax is the National Enquirer of the Web. Sorry if my opinion offends you, but I thought that is what this forum was for Expressing Opinions

Now as far as abuse..Look at your response to me and you will see abuse

[MJY1288]

AgThorn, Apparently zog feels I flamed you, but my post was aimed at NewsMax and not you, my apoligies if you took it as a flame or attack on you personally. IT WAS NOT

[AgThorn]

First of all, I didn't flame the poster, I have my reasons in questioning anything from NewsMax. I did check the source and as usual NewsMax has titled the article in it's predictable sensationalist manner.

First of all, I didn't take your reply as a flame to me, the poster ... and you are right - everyone has a right to post an opinion as to a news source's worthiness (in that regard, for instance, I am slowly changing in some of my opinions on "Judicial Watch" as a news source because of suspicions passed on to me by others here at FR.) I welcome valid news source "suspicions" since, to me, ALL Media needs to be looked at with a "jandous eye."

However, althought recognizing and supporting your right to do so and perhaps your past reasons in believing as you do (not yet known), I am questioning your claim that NewsMax has in this case "titled the article in it's predictable sensationalist manner"

Anyone can read every word from the title given as directly taken right from the Government document not only cited but posted ... i.e.:
- it is a US issued Declaration
- it is a declaration of Emergency
- it is an Emergency for Mad Cow Disease

Therefore it is difficult for anyone to agree with your rationale given for complaining about the "source" on this of all articles referenced by them.

[MJY1288]

"CWD" has been among captive bread herds of Elk for years, My wife works in a Laboratory as a Microbioligist for the past 25 years and has worked with this disease, The emergency that was declared can not be compared to what he saw in Europe where almost all the cattle had to be destroyed, This is why I question the title, not the report. The way NewsMax titled this article was for reaction

[zog]

--I read your insinuating response, and the quick use of the derogatory term "tinfoil". Your post was a guilt by association linkage insult, anyone can see that. It's quite common here on this forum, too, a lot of posters engage in that sort of activity. Fact is, you never checked, you just knee jerked a flame response. You insisted that newsmax was wrong,probably always wrong, "the national enquirer" wrong, there is the exact innuendo and linkage that also reflects on the poster who posted the article and the url link and reference, therefore in your opinion the post was tinfoil hat, ie, a "lie".

PROVE IT! Prove it's a lie, then I'll join you in saying newsmax is a buncha libelous liars. PROVE the originating poster was posting a lie, and I'll join you in decrying the practice.

Besides that, I only care about the forum here, I have no axe to grind either for or against newsmax. As national media outlets go, there are hundreds, larger and more prominent, who post much less reliable material than newsmax. Now that's just my opinion. Any news media can be wrong, but over the years newsmax is trying to do good, and not be part of the shamestream media. Are there that many conservative news outlets out there that we can afford to lose any more ground in the media? Last I looked we were outgunned by around 99%. When dealing with anything from scandals to current breaking events, their hearts are in the right place. And as a general reader and poster on the forum, I feel it's my obligation to come to the defense of someone when they have been maligned, either directly or throught the linkages and innuendo because of the linkages. There is way too much personal attacks that go on unanswered here at free republic, my opinion, that needs to change. The smarmy nasty mouthed tinfoil hat insult hurling debunker crowd has bullied enough people here. People post a newslink they find, there's always someone has to insult them, just can't stifle it or go get the facts themselves and present any data, no, just hurl an insult as fast as they can type. then try to defend the flame insult by calling it "an opinion" with zero data to back it up. If you think newsmax is a liar, sue them yourself then, expose them, put up your own newsmax debunking website, show the proof, make a big name for yourself and a few million, or in this case send the alledged libelous postings directly to the secretary of agriculture, then she can sue them if it's a false "tinfoil hat lie" being posted. An "opinion" can still be a flame and an insult, and as such violates the "no personal attacks" rule here, one rule that is violated on almost every thread. And replying to that is definetly different from initiating it, flames start with whomever draws first cyber word blood, that's where the personal attack starts. I'm not speaking as the original poster of the article, merely a reader here at free republic, and it's just gotten old the amount of insults that go on unanswered here. I see no rational defense for being a flame originator, none. You can make any point you want against any poster or linked to article without being insulting, by just using your own data and analysis, and that "tinfoil hat" label is one of the smarmier knee-jerk automatic insults that gets used against posters here all the time.

[MJY1288]

I was a subscriber of NewsMax, I realize that some of their articles are very enlightening and truthful, but I found that many of their articles were sensational and not based on responsible reporting, and in some occasions outright lies. So I dropped my subscription along with a letter explaining my reasons.

What I base my opinion of NewsMAx on is the way they build a story completely off of suspicions or hypathetical situations. I can't tell you how many times I have read how we were about to be bombed by China, or how General "such-n-such" has determined that N. Korea will Nuke us in the coming years. I personally feel this is an irresponsible way of reporting news or so called news, and this is why I don't trust their reporting

[MJY1288]

I think I explained myself to the poster and he agree that I was not flaming him or the report, I was stating my opinion of NewsMax that's all, I did read the Government declaration and I don't doubt it's validity, The title that NewsMax chose to use is what I question, Now if you find that offensive...Sorry! but that's how I feel about NewsMax.

Now lets have a look at your reponse to me,

"did you actually go look, or do you just like posting thoroughly idotic statements in a troll attempt"

"You maligned the poster on purpose, just because you own a keyboard and have a nasty foul disposition"

I consider your remarks as a good example of a "Clear violation of this Forum's rules"

[Betty Jo]

Why dosnt anyone else ask this question...did the terrorists start the epidemic in Europe?

The same for Hoof and Mouth.

The terrorists have destroyed the airline industry,closed the stock market for days,killed thousands and thousands of financial workers , and cost eveyone in America billions and billions!

So, I will not be surprised when it is determined tht the terrorists are killing animals!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

IMHO NewsMax is the National Enquirer of the Web.

IMHO, Newsmax was founded by one of the greatest journalists of the 90s, Chris Ruddy, author of the highly controversial and heavilly documented, "Strange Death of Vince Foster", and the journalist who had documented the most amazing coverup expose in all history, the Strange Death of Ron Brown.

I admit that Ruddy doesn't appear to be doing much of worth lately. Perhaps he is writing a book. Perhaps he is turning cynical that people can't quite get themselves to look at his mountain of evidence with open eyes. But to compare his work with the National Enquirer, I think that is very unfair. I see you have a beef, and like another poster asked, Where's the beef? What is innacurate? What makes newsmax.com as goofy as the Enquirer? You think that comparing mad cow disease with this should make newsmax.com comparable with the Enquirer? Give me a break. That is, IMHO, an excuse, a feather light excuse at that.

Baseless insults are a sign of fuzzy thinking.