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We're ready. The SAS, the Ghurkas, MI6, the RAF, Royal Navy and British Army are ready. In the words of a great American hero and patriot, "Let's Roll".

Best Regards, Ivan

Today is Trinity Sunday. Centuries ago words were written to be a call and a spur to the faithful servants of Truth and Justice: "Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar. As the Will of God is in Heaven, even so let it be." - Winston Churchill, 1940

This then, my lords and gentlemen, is the message which we send forth today to all states and nations, bound or free, to all the men in all the lands who care for freedom's cause. To our Allies and well-wishers in Europe, to our American friends and helpers drawing ever closer in their might across the ocean, this is the message-lift up your hearts, all will come right. Out of depths of sorrow and sacrifice will be born again the glory of mankind. - Winston Churchill, 1941




LET US GO FORWARD TOGETHER

1 posted on 09/25/2001 11:47:14 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Brian Allen, Vigilanteman, Chemist_Geek, Churchillspirit, BlessedBeGod, riley1992, Hugh Akston
Bump!
2 posted on 09/25/2001 11:47:48 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Brian Allen, Vigilanteman, Chemist_Geek, Churchillspirit, BlessedBeGod, riley1992, Hugh Akston
Bump!
3 posted on 09/25/2001 11:47:54 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
It looks like that alliance is coming together pretty nicely, eh Ivan?
12 posted on 09/26/2001 12:00:56 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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To: MadIvan
BTTT MadIvan!
15 posted on 09/26/2001 12:03:40 AM PDT by brat
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To: MadIvan
"The bombing begins in five minutes."--Ronald Reagan
16 posted on 09/26/2001 12:03:45 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: MadIvan,Squantos,harpseal,sneakypete,Thorn11cav,SLB
Here is my modest proposal:

General Crook the indian fighter said:

"Hunting Apaches with the US Army is like hunting deer with a brass band." It will be a TERRIBLE MISTAKE to tie US prestige to the rapid capture of Osama.

The FBI has not captured Eric Rudolph in several years, hiding in the 4,000 foot Appalachians a few hundred miles from FBI HQ.

Osama has had YEARS and millions of dollars to plan his evasion in the 18,000 foot high Hindu Kush. He is not stupid, and will journey off with 3 or 4 of his most 100% trusted bodyguards while we chase doubles and decoy vehicle convoys sending out decoy electronic signals. Count on it.

If we make "The Hunt For Osama" our BIG SHOW and can't produce him, we will be a laughingstock, and Osama the superstar Islamic Robin Hood.

Don't forget how hard moving targets are to hit: during the Gulf War, we never took out a loaded mobile SCUD launcher, and the Iraqis were still firing mobile SCUDs on the last day of the war. Osama is much smaller than a SCUD and launcher, and the Hindu Kush is a million times better "hiding ground" than the flat Iraqi deserts.

A far better tactic is to reconfigure as many of our very best specops units as possible into "hunter killer teams" ASAP. Use the Israeli Mossad's worldwide pursuit of the 1972 Munich Olympics terrorists as the model writ large.

The SAS, Delta and many SEAL units will be capable of this job, working along with the "Christians In Action". Put them in civvies with long hair and civilian cover, and let them loose. Let them track down and kill anyone even peripherally involved with any named terrorist units, worldwide, any time they can be gotten. No trial, no arrest, just .22LR or 7.62mm justice meted out on the streets of Copenhagen, Rome, or Manila.

In one year, anyone even supsected of terrorist ties will be dead or too afraid to come out of hiding.

In Arab nations where our people cannot keep sufficient cover for action to operate effectively, hire local mercenaries to do the killing.

Yes, I am proposing a "dirty war" response. A world wide "Phoenix Program".

But it is the only method which will work.

Sending the Green Berets hiking up and down the Hindu Kush looking for Osama will just be "hunting deer with a brass band".

67 Posted on 09/25/2001 23:59:28 PDT by Travis McGee

17 posted on 09/26/2001 12:05:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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I'm not familiar with this one ... but is the Daily Telegraph a British tabloid?
20 posted on 09/26/2001 12:08:50 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: MadIvan
"Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar. As the Will of God is in Heaven, even so let it be." - Winston Churc

Nice. And, yes, LET'S ROLL!!!

22 posted on 09/26/2001 12:10:29 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: MadIvan
Love the look in Blairs eyes. Taliban, we're not kidding.


28 posted on 09/26/2001 12:15:31 AM PDT by quimby
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I just hope the attack begins right before the showing of The West Wing's episode about the Pentagon and WTC events. It'll knock that exploitative crap off for quite some time.
34 posted on 09/26/2001 12:23:05 AM PDT by dougherty
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BTW, anyone know where I can get a transcript of Blair's speech before US Congress?
37 posted on 09/26/2001 12:24:21 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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In a message to the American people, the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, stepped up his defiance. He said the attacks on New York and Washington were to avenge US "cruelty" towards Muslim countries.

I thought he said the Jews did it.

44 posted on 09/26/2001 12:32:02 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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I've asked this question on two other threads, but no one will answer it: WHEN is Congress going to declare war? and, Does war have to be declared on a specific country, or can it be declared on a group of people, such as the al Qaeda?
63 posted on 09/26/2001 1:43:43 AM PDT by hopefulpilgrim
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to avenge this cruelty."

Well, Mullah Omar, then you'll understand it when we do just that.

So glad you finally connected the dots.

72 posted on 09/26/2001 3:14:44 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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"We're ready. The SAS, the Ghurkas, MI6, the RAF, Royal Navy and British Army are ready."

And Putin just gave Chechnya three days to surrender.

IMO that means Bush and Putin have a quid pro quo, and the Great Mopping Up is about to begin. The taliban thought the West would be restrained out of fear of upsetting the Bear in his own backyard. Well, the Bear just winked at us and smiled. No comfort or joy for bin Laden's gangs in either theater.

73 posted on 09/26/2001 3:18:00 AM PDT by Don Joe
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Your government is perpetrating all sorts of atrocities in Muslim countries. Instead of supporting your government's policies you should urge your government to reconsider their wrong and cruel policies.

Unfortunately some on our shores seem to be buying into this enemy line.

76 posted on 09/26/2001 3:33:29 AM PDT by GVnana
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um, tony, number 1, they've passed the point of being survivable as a government, as they've proven to be a very, very, very irresponsible member of the world's community and number 2, *what the hell are you doing giving iran attack info about allied operations?*
79 posted on 09/26/2001 4:30:14 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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Osama you can run and run...but your just going to end up dying all tired out!
82 posted on 09/26/2001 4:41:35 AM PDT by surfer
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In a message to the American people, the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, stepped up his defiance. He said the attacks on New York and Washington were to avenge US "cruelty" towards Muslim countries. "The American people must know that the sad events that took place recently were the result of their government's wrong policies. Your government is perpetrating all sorts of atrocities in Muslim countries. Instead of supporting your government's policies you should urge your government to reconsider their wrong and cruel policies."

Am I the only one who caught this? If bin Laden was truly innocent, as Mullah claims, then how would he know that 9/11 happened because of our "wrong and cruel policies"? Hmmm.

85 posted on 09/26/2001 4:52:30 AM PDT by dwbh
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(1)How do we know what is purposeful disinformation, "loose lips", or information released on the part of supposed "friends" to undermine our efforts?

(2) Will the attention-deficit public, who last "war" was a 30-day miniseries presented courtesy of CNN, be able to stand it if this isn't visual, quick, and immediately successful? Even my husband is getting impatient and wants to see some immediate retaliation (kinda like "immediate gratification")--a few bombs dropped, burning buildings, refugees running. The sooner the better in keeping the public pumped up.

(3) If we really have an agreed-upon battle plan, why didn't they implement it BEFORE WTC, because Bin Laden's criminality was evident more than two weeks ago?

86 posted on 09/26/2001 5:18:25 AM PDT by MHT
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