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War will begin within days (LET'S ROLL)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | September 26, 2001 | By George Jones and Anton La Guardia

Posted on 09/25/2001 11:47:14 PM PDT by MadIvan

TONY BLAIR cleared the way yesterday for military strikes against Afghanistan within days by declaring that the Taliban would become an enemy in the battle against terrorism unless they handed over Osama bin Laden.

Standing in the Downing Street garden, he said that America and its allies had the power to do "very considerable damage" to the Taliban. "Military conflict there will be unless the Taliban change and respond to the ultimatum given to them," said Mr Blair.

As diplomats said that military action was likely to begin "within a week", Downing Street announced that Parliament would be recalled for one day on Thursday of next week. Political leaders had already indicated that MPs should be brought back only after action had started.

Mr Blair's ultimatum, delivered 24 hours after he briefed Iain Duncan Smith, the Conservative leader, and senior parliamentarians, was seen as preparing British and international opinion for hostilities.

The Taliban were further isolated yesterday when Saudi Arabia severed all relations with the regime. Last night, a Saudi official said that Afghan diplomats had been given 48 hours to leave the country.

This leaves only Pakistan maintaining diplomatic links with Kabul since the United Arab Emirates cut ties at the weekend. President Bush, whom Mr Blair visited last week and vowed to stand "shoulder to shoulder" with in the fight against terrorism, praised the Saudis' "wise step".

Only President Musharraf of Pakistan, the traditional backer of the Taliban, said that his country would maintain contact because "at least there should be one country who ought to be able to have an access to them".

In a message to the American people, the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, stepped up his defiance. He said the attacks on New York and Washington were to avenge US "cruelty" towards Muslim countries.

"The American people must know that the sad events that took place recently were the result of their government's wrong policies. Your government is perpetrating all sorts of atrocities in Muslim countries. Instead of supporting your government's policies you should urge your government to reconsider their wrong and cruel policies."

He added, without claiming to know who was responsible: "The recent sad event in America was the result of these cruel policies and was meant to avenge this cruelty."

Mr Blair said the Taliban knew what it had to do. If it stood in the way of bringing bin Laden to account, it would be "every bit our enemy" as bin Laden himself. "Our enemy's friend becomes our enemy too," he said in his strongest warning yet that the Taliban would be toppled unless it agreed to hand over bin Laden.

He described the Taliban as a regime "founded on fear and funded largely by drugs and crime" where poverty and illness were endemic and women's rights "non-existent".

Mr Blair emphasised the unity of the coalition lined up against Afghanistan. He said military action would be directed at the Taliban and not at the ordinary people of Afghanistan and promised that Britain would help efforts to deliver food to Afghan refugees to avert a winter crisis.

The Prime Minister called his unscheduled press conference after a day of non-stop diplomacy aimed at securing international and domestic political backing for military action. The most significant breakthrough came late on Monday with President Putin's announcement that Russia would share intelligence with the West and help the opposition Northern Alliance in northern Afghanistan.

In a historic address to the Bundestag in Berlin, Mr Putin yesterday sought to capitalise on his gesture by calling on the West to welcome Russia back to the diplomatic top table.

Mr Blair did not state when the ultimatum to the Taliban would run out nor does the Government expect a positive response. But it was meant to increase the pressure on the regime and provide justification for America and Britain to take military action.

"We have the power to do very considerable damage to the Taliban regime, and any action we take will be directed towards the regime, and not the ordinary people of Afghanistan," he said.

As the world lined up behind the coalition, Abdul Sattar, Pakistan's foreign minister, warned against governments giving military aid to the Taliban's Northern Alliance opponents. He said: "We must not make the blunder of trying to foist a government on the people of Afghanistan."

His comments were seen as reflecting concern in Pakistan that Iran, an old enemy of the Taliban, might, after yesterday's visit by Jack Straw, have a greater say in the future of Islamabad's old client state.

Recognising the delicacy of Gen Musharraf's position, Mr Bush did not call on Pakistan to follow Saudi Arabia's lead and instructed his officials to moderate previous talk about overthrowing the Taliban.

The president said he wanted to "make sure that Pakistan is a stable country and that whatever consequences may occur as a result of actions we may or may not take, is one that we do the best we can to manage".

He called on Afghan citizens disenchanted with Taliban rule to help the US pursue bin Laden but added that he was not interested in "nation-building" or supplanting regimes. "We're focused on justice and we're going to get justice. It's going to take a while probably but I'm a patient man. Nothing will diminish my will and my determination."

The Prime Minister attempted to calm concerns that terrorists might be planning biological or chemical weapons attacks on Britain after the head of the World Health Organisation warned governments to prepare for possible attacks. He said there was no specific threat and it was important not to be "alarmist" about such possibilities.

Labour confirmed that its annual conference in Brighton next week would be cut short, finishing on Wednesday to enable MPs to return to Westminster. Mr Duncan Smith reaffirmed his "full backing" for the Government's support for America's efforts to bring the perpetrators of the World Trade Centre and Pentagon atrocities to justice. "They were attacks we simply cannot allow to go unpunished," he said.


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To: Travis McGee
i agree, to this point: everyone 'in country' there knows the general whereabouts of obl, you can count on it. it won't take long for him to be ratted out, especially as the reward goes past 25M usd to 50, then 100, then 200, etc. obl the pig won't be able to outbid us for long.
81 posted on 09/26/2001 4:38:16 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: MadIvan
Osama you can run and run...but your just going to end up dying all tired out!
82 posted on 09/26/2001 4:41:35 AM PDT by surfer
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To: Clinton's a rapist
what about all the chemical/biological factories that iraq assisted in building in the sudan, just for their terrorist networks?
83 posted on 09/26/2001 4:43:56 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: East Bay Patriot
Trust that George knows what he's doing. You have no choice anyway.

And calm the hell down, let's get all ducks in a row first.

I was patient and filled with anxiety for eight crummy years, the American sheeple MUST be patient now and trust your President.

84 posted on 09/26/2001 4:46:22 AM PDT by kevin
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To: MadIvan
In a message to the American people, the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar, stepped up his defiance. He said the attacks on New York and Washington were to avenge US "cruelty" towards Muslim countries. "The American people must know that the sad events that took place recently were the result of their government's wrong policies. Your government is perpetrating all sorts of atrocities in Muslim countries. Instead of supporting your government's policies you should urge your government to reconsider their wrong and cruel policies."

Am I the only one who caught this? If bin Laden was truly innocent, as Mullah claims, then how would he know that 9/11 happened because of our "wrong and cruel policies"? Hmmm.

85 posted on 09/26/2001 4:52:30 AM PDT by dwbh
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To: MadIvan
(1)How do we know what is purposeful disinformation, "loose lips", or information released on the part of supposed "friends" to undermine our efforts?

(2) Will the attention-deficit public, who last "war" was a 30-day miniseries presented courtesy of CNN, be able to stand it if this isn't visual, quick, and immediately successful? Even my husband is getting impatient and wants to see some immediate retaliation (kinda like "immediate gratification")--a few bombs dropped, burning buildings, refugees running. The sooner the better in keeping the public pumped up.

(3) If we really have an agreed-upon battle plan, why didn't they implement it BEFORE WTC, because Bin Laden's criminality was evident more than two weeks ago?

86 posted on 09/26/2001 5:18:25 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Travis McGee
i've never posted before, so i won't start now, but did you see this? http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_div=3&u_hdg=3&u_sid=204593
87 posted on 09/26/2001 5:18:51 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Anonymous2
I think you just posted...lol
88 posted on 09/26/2001 5:24:31 AM PDT by surfer
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To: Anonymous2
Here is your link.

I recall a similar article from another source posted within the past day or two but can't recall its title.

89 posted on 09/26/2001 5:26:36 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Travis McGee
Yes, I am proposing a "dirty war" response. A world wide "Phoenix Program".

Point(s) well made.

90 posted on 09/26/2001 5:35:24 AM PDT by varon
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To: surfer
ha, i guess so. i'm already addicted to this da*n site! guess i should improve my skills, but no time, no time! >8-[/]
91 posted on 09/26/2001 5:36:46 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Clive
thanks.
93 posted on 09/26/2001 5:39:26 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Anonymous2
don't u worry about time...FR will suck it all up!!!
94 posted on 09/26/2001 5:41:24 AM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer
kind of like the eib airborn phenomenon but many times worse? :O
95 posted on 09/26/2001 5:45:12 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: My Favorite Headache
From your "sources," do they say we will go after the Taliban, since yesterday it was said we would not try to topple them (disappointed me).
96 posted on 09/26/2001 5:49:58 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: quimby
"Revenge is a dish, best served cold."

I have seen that statement more times in the last two weeks than I care to remember. Revenge for the wrongs committed is secondary. Our primary purpose must be to deter further attacks. Unfortunately, in psychological terms we have already failed at deterrance. Immediacy was imperative, you know, "stimulus-response." The window is long gone.

97 posted on 09/26/2001 5:59:38 AM PDT by UnsinkableMollyBrown
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To: Nogbad
For God's sake! The Daily Telegraph is the greatest newspaper in England (since the Times got taken over by Rupert Murdoch) and probably the greatest in Europe.

Yes,but IS it a tabaloid?

Sorry,couldn't resist a cheap shot THAT easy!

BTW,they have a very nice web version called "The Electronic Telegraph".

98 posted on 09/26/2001 6:07:51 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Travis McGee
The SAS, Delta and many SEAL units will be capable of this job, working along with the "Christians In Action". Put them in civvies with long hair and civilian cover, and let them loose. Let them track down and kill anyone even peripherally involved with any named terrorist units, worldwide, any time they can be gotten. No trial, no arrest, just .22LR or 7.62mm justice meted out on the streets of Copenhagen, Rome, or Manila.

Good idea. I'd go a step further and put them in those long robes that women have to wear. You can conceal an automatic weapon under those shawls, or whatever you call them. But you are right, we need to give our troops the authority to just take them out. No prisoners.

99 posted on 09/26/2001 6:08:42 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Travis McGee
Re Your post #17, I agree with your assessment 100%. We have the resources, and now we have the need. If we have the will and sanction, the popularity (and population) of terrorist organizations worldwide will diminish very quickly.


100 posted on 09/26/2001 6:10:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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