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Good thoughts. I'm fomenting my own essay, but thought Mr. White sounded some little-heard notes of importance.

Dan
How Can I Know God?
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1 posted on 09/22/2001 10:00:05 AM PDT by BibChr (filops@yahoo.com)
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Not mine own essay, but PING all the same!
2 posted on 09/22/2001 10:01:40 AM PDT by BibChr
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ILOVETHEPOSITIONOFBEINGARADICAL"UNPOPULARTOTHEWORLD"CHRISTWANNABEBUMP

Cheese .

3 posted on 09/22/2001 10:05:24 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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I have reservations on the post itself, but to you and your URLS there's a BUMP. To the message within the post, a BUMP.

Cheese .

5 posted on 09/22/2001 10:10:18 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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Barry Lynn of Americans for the Separation of church and state is theatening to sue Dr. White. It seems the two had a debate about homosexuality, and Mr Lynn is afraid that James White will make the tapes available to publice
8 posted on 09/22/2001 10:13:32 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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I don't see many "Christian Leaders" placing some of the blame on a lukewarm and complacent church...That is more to blame than any of the other reasons Falwell gave.
9 posted on 09/22/2001 10:15:32 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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But there is no such thing as “partial Christianity,” nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, “We worship one God under many names.”

And you wonder why the American people treat you like the Taliban? Many of you extreme fundamentalists share common characteristics with religious fantatics elsewhere. Maybe you dont cut off the hands of criminals or stone women who wear western clothes but then you did burn your share of witches not that many years ago and before that you forced Arabs and Indians in the new world to forcibly convert to Christianity or die by the sword.

10 posted on 09/22/2001 10:15:52 AM PDT by Dave S
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The quote I remember first when I hear God proclaimed by the "modern" mainline Christian (all loving, all forgiving, goes by many names, etc.)is this definition: "God, the Almighty Patsy."
11 posted on 09/22/2001 10:16:49 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: BibChr
Thanks for this post. Everything this pastor says rings true, but I have one quibble with this quote:

nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, “We worship one God under many names.”

Seems to me Christians and Jews do worship one and the same God.

(I have been thoroughly barraged on another thread for asking if Allah weren't just another word for God, so I accept that the god of Islam --and certainly of Buddhism or Ba'hai-ism etc.-- is not the God of Judaism and Christianity.)

What do you know about this?

14 posted on 09/22/2001 10:23:47 AM PDT by gumbo
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Thanks for posting this, Dan. It is an excellent essay. With the fear of sounding "judgmental" (not really) I couldn't help my thoughts last night. As I caught the last minutes of the celebrity (for lack of a better term) bash and the reports about it on the late news, I was offended. Here stood all (at least most) these people who haven't really got a clue about God, yet throw His name around as if it is the buzz word of the day. It is and that's the problem. Talking about God and knowing Him are not the same thing.

I can only hope and pray that this horror has brought some people to their senses. Maybe some will realize that they should seek Him every day; not just when they are overwhelmed with helplessness.

15 posted on 09/22/2001 10:24:05 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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Casual Christianity doesn't work. God calls us to repent of sinful lifestyles and seek His wisdom in ALL things. (those two sentences will classify me as a: fanatic, fundamentalist, abortion clinic bombing thug, and worst of all - "born again" nut) I believe the most powerful tool Christian's have is their own testimony about how Jesus has changed their lives. Our own testimony of overcoming sinful desires, failures, anger, greed, etc. is very powerful.
22 posted on 09/22/2001 10:35:44 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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The writer of this essay is correct. We want God's blessings, but we don't want to follow His laws. Divine judgement can be harsh. And paying lip service to God doesn't work.
32 posted on 09/22/2001 10:47:54 AM PDT by Don Myers
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FYI

BIBLE vs. KORAN

36 posted on 09/22/2001 10:54:02 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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Is America so arrogant, so utterly self-absorbed, so diseased by religious liberalism and philosophical subjectivism, that she thinks she can ignore all of history itself and demand from God blessings when she refuses to repent of her evils? Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves? Are we so blind?

Surely the scourge of abortion would be enough to warrant the unleashing of the wrath of God, but there is so much more!

BUMP

41 posted on 09/22/2001 11:05:59 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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But it is right here that the new American religiosity clamps its hands over its ears and refuses to hear. America wants God’s blessing. America wants God to protect us from more horrific visions of airliners flying purposefully, relentlessly into our national monuments. We want God to be near us as we board our aircraft. We want Him to protect us from the horror of thinking about what it was like when the towers collapsed. We want Him to guide our military and allow us to flex our muscle and launch our missiles with impunity. We want a blessing God, a caring God, who simply panders to our wants and whims. This is the “God” of the new American religiosity.

But what America does not want is a God who is holy, who is just, and who has revealed His will concerning how we, His creatures, are to live. America is a land soaked in blood. We glory in violence. We are so selfish, so bound in our avarice, fornication, and sexual lust, that we murder our own offspring in the womb (or at birth as in partial-birth infanticide). Our hands are covered in blood, and yet we think lighting a candle and lifting them up while mumbling “God Bless America” is going to bring God’s favor? Listen to the words of God to another nation that likewise was “religious” but refused to hear the word of repentance:

these two paragraphs say it all.

43 posted on 09/22/2001 11:08:06 AM PDT by Salvation
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Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves?

WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR THESE AMERICANS???????

46 posted on 09/22/2001 11:17:34 AM PDT by spoosman
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Excellent post. Can't wait to read your essay!

In Christ,

60 posted on 09/22/2001 11:57:09 AM PDT by Keyes For President
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Good one.

When you finish your own essay, I assume you plan to post it on FR...?

Please put me on the bump list.

70 posted on 09/22/2001 12:16:34 PM PDT by Kyrie
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Is America so arrogant, so utterly self-absorbed, so diseased by religious liberalism and philosophical subjectivism, that she thinks she can ignore all of history itself and demand from God blessings when she refuses to repent of her evils? Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves? Are we so blind?

Sadly it seems, yes, yes and yes for the most part. But maybe like Ninevah, we will repent and God will save us.

77 posted on 09/22/2001 12:41:38 PM PDT by Keyes For President
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America's New Religiosity: God Bless America, But Don't You Dare Tell Us To Repent!

Dan,

There is nothing new about that.

82 posted on 09/22/2001 12:52:11 PM PDT by AlGone2001
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I've easily led 200-people to the Lord for salvation, both child and adult. I always have the person pray for the forgiveness of his/her sins, and work with them as long as I know them on the issue of repentance and abstinence from sin.

Fot too long the church has been treating God as though He is our "Good ole boy."

85 posted on 09/22/2001 1:01:37 PM PDT by AlGone2001
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