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"Infinite Justice" offensive to Muslims
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Posted on 09/20/2001 9:27:25 AM PDT by van_erwin

I just heard Donald Rumsfeld on the radio answering reporters' questions, and one reporter asked if the operation in the middle east would really be named "Infinite Justice."
When Rumsfeld replied that he had 'heard' the name, but that it might not be the actual name of the action, the reporter replied that he had spoken to Muslim clerics, and that "infinite justice" was offensive because "only Allah can provide infinite justice."
To which Rumsfeld replied that we would not name it anything that might be offensive!

Thoughts?


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To: monday
Look, I don't like political correctness. But this is war, and need to be careful about the word we choose.

I know that some militants in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan are dancing in the streets. What you don't understand is that the political leaders in those countries are trying to cooperate with the U.S. - but we should not put them in the position of having to squander their political capital on trying to explain an ill-chosen mission name.

Do you think it will improve our situation if the militants overthrow the rulers in Saudi Arabia, etc.? This is what you are unwittingly encouraging with careless remarks. We need discipline and clear thinking now. Undermining our allies by giving the enemy a propaganda tool for the militants would be a big mistake.

Loose lips can destroy the military alliance.

281 posted on 09/20/2001 12:38:14 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: van_erwin
There are those of us who believe the slaughter of over 5,000 innocents is offensive. In a word, my response would have been "So?"
282 posted on 09/20/2001 12:42:17 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: van_erwin
Hmmm.. we don't want to offend them, just kill them!
283 posted on 09/20/2001 12:44:22 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Betty Jo, BTTT
BAD NEWS! - EVERYONE, head on over to this new thread:</font size>

"U.S. May Dump 'Infinite Justice' Name"
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3baa426851d3.htm

284 posted on 09/20/2001 12:47:24 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Kevin Curry
I was wondering what the name meant in Islamic terms--someone on the radio the other day was saying that Bush Sr. used to intentionally mispronounce Sadaam's name--not as Sa- dam but as Sad-em--and that it was a reference to garbage--LOL! I figured that they chose the term Infinite Justice because it had a symbolic message in it. Now I know what it is.
285 posted on 09/20/2001 1:00:10 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Atticus
My response, "Allah can't do squat."

True indeed. Of course since modern physics originated from Christian Europe, and the engineering application of Physics evolved from that, then I'd assume that a Christian God was not opposed to their development in the US miltary industrial complex.

Thusly, as long as God allows F=MA to work, then assault rifles, missiles, artillery and jet engines should continue to work just fine regardless of what "Allah" prefers.

287 posted on 09/20/2001 1:01:02 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: van_erwin
It was intentionally offensive--why not offend them--they enjoy watching American people die--now I find that offensive!!!
288 posted on 09/20/2001 1:03:13 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Outraged
Tired of political correctness?
Here's my comment:

It amazes me....

That the same "conservatives" here, that denounce
the varying life-styles in America; calling those 
life-styles immoral and ungodly and wish they
could put an end to those life-styles.. 

fail to comprehend another's religion finding our
entire free society and culture both immoral and
ungodly - and wishing they could put an end to it.

The terrorists are extremists, radicals, and not
part of the mainstream, just as the Oklahoma
bombing was not done by someone representing
our mainstream.

The continuing denouncing of the entire Middle
East population, is disgusting and not conducive
to the Freedom and Liberty we preach.

 

289 posted on 09/20/2001 1:06:49 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Operation "URBAN RENEWAL" is what I've heard.
290 posted on 09/20/2001 1:10:25 PM PDT by CFW
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To: van_erwin
Thoughts?

1 Posted on 09/20/2001 09:27:25 PDT by van_erwin

Several, but I'll name one. Why don't we just ask then what would be acceptable?

291 posted on 09/20/2001 1:11:06 PM PDT by katze
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To: Ipberg
Xena's Mom thinks it'll be Noble Eagle going in, then when fighting starts it'll be changed to Avenging Eagle. If she's right, she's pickin' my lottery numbers that weekend.
292 posted on 09/20/2001 1:11:50 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: DistantVoice
They are interfering in our internal affairs....we'll name our military operations anything we want to.
293 posted on 09/20/2001 1:24:58 PM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: van_erwin
So I guess, "Pour Pig Fat on the Towelheads" will not work?
294 posted on 09/20/2001 1:37:44 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: SuziQ
Oh Please!! Why don't we all stop wishing for instant gratification and give the President and his folks time to do this thing properly.

We had better get some gratification soon or there isn't going to be any point. We'll be too busy standing in bread lines to care who attacked us.

295 posted on 09/20/2001 1:46:14 PM PDT by jeffo
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To: doug from upland
Two-thirds of Pakistanis support Afghanistan over US: poll
AFP
Islamabad, September 19

More than two-thirds of people in Pakistan think their government should side with Afghanistan rather than the United States if Washington attacks the neighbouring country, a Gallup poll said Wednesday.

The survey is another sign of the risk President Pervez Musharraf has taken in offering Pakistan's full support for the United States war on terrorism following last week's devastating attacks in New York and Washington.

Gallup said the snap poll of 500 people showed 85 per cent believed a US strike against Afghanistan, where terror suspect Osama bin Laden lives under the wing of the ruling Taliban militia, was imminent.

While 32 per cent of people supported Musharraf's decision to lend Pakistan's support to the United States, 62 per cent opposed it.

Only seven per cent said Pakistan should side with the United States if Washington attacks Afghanistan, while 27 per cent advised neutrality and 63 per cent said it should side with Afghanistan.

"The survey findings show that Pakistanis make a sharp distinction between the right to seek extradition and the right to make military strikes," Gallup said in a statement.

"It is interesting to note that in 27 out of 29 countries where this global survey was carried out by Gallup International, majorities opposed military strike."

Pakistan has seen days of vocal protests from religious groups against possible US attacks on Afghanistan and Pakistan's promised cooperation.


296 posted on 09/20/2001 1:48:04 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Wil H
Maybe the Arabs need to get the message that THEIR God is on OUR side.

WRONG. Their god is our number one ememy, better known as Satan. They DO NOT worship the God of the Holy Bible, but rather the god of the false prophet Mohammed.

297 posted on 09/20/2001 1:53:26 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: Deep_6
"The terrorists are extremists, radicals, and not part of the mainstream"~~~~~~~~~~~Sadly they are mainstream. A Muslim speaking out in support of the United States to other Muslims right now is asking for trouble. (slashed tires, firebombings, etc.) And not just the Muslims in the Middle East, everywhere, the US included. Incidently i can understand perfectly that Islam would hate everything our culture stands for and want to end it. (Our culture is very different from Islam.) But just because I understand why and that they would end our culture if given the choice, it doe's not follow that we should allow them to do so? Or is this what your are advocating? And just so you understand, we did not start this. Most people in this country really had no hatred for Islamic peoples before last Tues. The same cannot be said for Muslims feelings toward us.
298 posted on 09/20/2001 1:59:51 PM PDT by monday
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To: van_erwin
"infinite justice" was offensive because "only Allah can provide infinite justice."

Um, is't that what this is about? Aren't we trying to speed them on thier way to allah for his Infinate Justice?

-Snerdley

"Never start a fight, but by God, ALWAYS FINISH IT!"
-Cmdr Jeffery Sinclair
Commander Babylon 5

299 posted on 09/20/2001 2:00:28 PM PDT by Snerdley
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To: DWSUWF
How bout Operation Bloody Holy Towel!
300 posted on 09/20/2001 2:02:51 PM PDT by bray
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