Posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:52 PM PDT by maxwell
Okay, my first question is-- WHO DO THEY THINK THEY'RE KIDDING?! Let me put this into context: this is the text of a flyer that's being posted around the campus where I attend graduate school:
WAR IS TERRORISM
Contact your Congressmen and speak out against unneeded and violent retaliation. The lives of foreign peoples [sic] and US soldiers will not bring back those lost in the recent tragedy in New York.
For more information about US foreign policy and the events that have taken place in the US and abroad, refer to the following websites:
www.indymedia.org
www.zmag.org
www.wtowatch.org
www.globalexchange.org
www.wto.org
www.protest.net
www.slashdot.org
Throughout the 20th Century violence and military might has been used to curb international terrorism. It hasn't worked. We need a new solution for a new century. Let's show that America has learned something from Vietnam, from Libya, from Iraq, from Israel, and Afghanistan.
Above all, don't listen to CNN and the major news networks. They say we are at war. They say that this is the new Pearl Harbor. Inform yourself. Terrorism is not new. Learn from the mistakes of the past.
Keep yourself informed and inform Congress in turn. The only way we can prevent needless violence is through active protest.
[emphasis mine]
I won't even address the appalling sentence structure and composition (and this is one of the better schools... sheesh...)-- that last line gets me. What, d'ya think suicidal religious fanatics are going to pay attention to a few flyers and some nude picketing?! The sheer assininity of kids these days floors me... Didn't bother to check out the links, but I speculate it's more of the same...
So my question to the rest of y'all is, how much anti-war rhetoric have you come across so far?
Told my hubby I was gonna be ticked if we didn't retaliate and let those jerks get away with this...like Clinton did for 8 years. I am not in a good mood over this and I have no patience right now for these liberal give peace a chance types.
The original projections of the number of protesters were up to 100,000. But as I said in my previous post there still may be 10-20 thousand to show up. NPR gave a liberal amount of time to one protester who ranted on in a '60's style diatribe about peace and war, killing of innocents (enemy), and sundry other subjects.
I'm surprised, gun-lovah... I don't mean to bash your state, but y'all got ahelluvalota super-enlightened a$$hole progressive types up there... Check out any institution of higher education and I bet you'll find your dissenters though. These people take for granted what others have spilled their blood for.
I two-fistedly agree. You ain't a Marine, are ya? I've been hearing alot of this from Marines... Semper fi, y'all!
Naaaaah, some of these kids are so dense they wouldn't know the Wigner-Eckhart theorem if it hit 'em in the head...
Actually I've never lived in the cattlepens, even when I was an undergrad... Too many stupid kids getting in the way of my schedule. I'm one a them free spirits. I like it that I can trash my place as much as I want and nobody comes in at some ungodly hour and screams at me to clean up the beer and pizza sauce off the ceiling.
Haha, I might be if I were Catholic but I don't give a sh$t... I read about Drinan on some other thread and frankly he's the one who needs something shoved up where the sun don't shine. And not just an enema.
Most people buckle when someone calls them a backwoods redneck hick conservative. Me, I'm too stoooopid to back down.
Yeah well, you come over here and find all the g--d--- electrical shorts in my energy analyzer apparatus then, and I'll go plaster the campus.
I do think the juxtaposition of that poster with a simple "Support Our Troops" banner would look good though... If you were around here, dude, I'd roust your a$$ out and we'd get a couple cases of Miller Lite and rev up the staple guns...
Hmmmm... This opens up a can of worms for me. I believe that their doctrines are deeply flawed, and-- very quickly, 'cause I need a nicotine fix like you wouldn't believe-- that they take advantage of the freedoms and liberties that the spilled blood of others affords them, whilst at the same time condemning those very actions that keep their a$$es from being grass...
Back in a sec, puff puff...
If the US falls, which it will not, where will they go to protest!
Their freedoms are at stake as well.
This is a quote from a speech by John Piper (Desiring God Ministries at www.desiringgod.org).
God wills that human justice hold sway among governments, and between citizens and civil authority. He does not prescribe that governments always turn the other cheek. The government “does not bear the sword for nothing.” Police have the God-given right to use force to restrain evil and bring law-breakers to justice. And legitimate states have the God-given right to restrain life-threatening aggression and bring criminals to justice. If these truths are known, this God-ordained exercise of divine prerogative would glorify the justice of God who mercifully ordains that the flood of sin and misery be restrained in the earth.
Also in reference, check out Romans 13:1-4.
The full article can be found here
You'd have to pull his head out, first. He's had it rammed up there pretty firmly for many a year, now.
AB
Nope, it ain't just the Cath'lics with this judgmental streak, dude... Don't forget Falwell. I myself know a number of RR Protestants who're echoing the same sentiments (though not condemning violent retaliation, however...)
If all the blood that was ever spilt in the name of freedom were really for that purpose then the world would be a much better place.
That's right - we're trying to prevent it from happening again. Is that too hard to comprehend?
Especially since we have been in a religious war for the past twenty years. For many baby boomers the Church has become irrelevant anyway.
BUMP
I guess the reason I haven't come across much pro/anti war talk in religious circles is that basically the only time I do that stuff is Sunday morning service, and that only if I get up on time... [hangs head in shame] Oh well, from what y'all are telling me, I think I might go on honoring the Almighty's day of rest as per usual...
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