[maxwell]

real pacifists like the Amish who have a deep and abiding and consistently pricipled opposition to violence

Hmmmm... This opens up a can of worms for me. I believe that their doctrines are deeply flawed, and-- very quickly, 'cause I need a nicotine fix like you wouldn't believe-- that they take advantage of the freedoms and liberties that the spilled blood of others affords them, whilst at the same time condemning those very actions that keep their a$$es from being grass...

Back in a sec, puff puff...

[ICU812]

that they take advantage of the freedoms and liberties that the spilled blood of others affords them, whilst at the same time condemning those very actions that keep their a$$es from being grass

If all the blood that was ever spilt in the name of freedom were really for that purpose then the world would be a much better place.