Posted on 09/15/2001 5:00:11 PM PDT by Michael2001
Hijack suspect Mohamed Atta and his cousin Marwan Ashehri, two of the 19 hijackers named by the U.S. Justice Department, as perpetrators of the New York World Trade Center and Pentagon, Washington suicide attacks, have been variously described as Egyptian, United Arab Emirates and Saudi nationals.
Yet, according to DEBKA-Net-Weekly, they were actually Arab-Americans.
Hamburg investigators said two of the terrorists were Mohamed Atta, 33, and Marwan Alshehhi, 23, whose training at a Florida flight school has been the focus of intense FBI probes this week. The German investigators said the two were from the United Arab Emirates.
Atta, 33, was implicated in a series of bus bombings that hit Jerusalem in 1996. He evaded Israeli capture by going to ground among his relatives in America. The U.S. authorities at the time turned down Israel’s request to extradite this U.S. national. He is reportedly the scion of a prominent, affluent family in El-Bireh, Ramallah, one of whose members is a former mayor and most of whom carry American citizenship, as do many elite Palestinian families in Ramallah and its environs.
The latest information coming out of the FBI investigation traces Atta, Ashehri and another of the seven suicide pilots, Ziad Jarrah, from the Lebanese Bekaa Valley, to Hamburg four years ago, where they established an Islamic terrorist cell.
Terrorist experts note that this cell based itself on a much older German-based terrorist group – the one involved in the 1988 Pan Am 103 terrorist disaster over Lockerbie, Scotland, in which 270 died. Atta, who set up an Islamic prayer room in the local university, was known in Hamburg as “Mohamed el-Amir.” Ashihri registered for studies, but never turned up. Jarrah, who flew aboard the plane that crashed near Pittsburgh, went from Germany to Afghanistan 18 months ago and from there to Miami, Florida.
It now appears that some of the seven suicide pilots may have trained not only in private flying schools in Florida, but at U.S. military schools. That is yet another pointer to how well Islamic jihadists were able to secretly place themselves in American society and its institutions.
The most recent penetration dates back 11 years at least, although its roots go back much earlier. In 1990, when the Afghan war ended with the Red Army’s defeat, Osama Bin Laden, who led the international Islamic brigade America raised to fight the Red Army, turned coat. “Afghan Arabs” -- as those volunteers came to be known -- were allowed to settle in the United States with their families. Some stayed loyal to their former commander and enlisted to the Al Qaeda, the militant movement Bin Laden created to fight the second surviving secular superpower, America.
Those Afghan Arabs form the American-based core of Al Qaeda. A second important branch that buried its operatives inside the United States was the fanatical and violent Egyptian Jihad Islami movement, Bin Laden’s foremost ally.
In the latter half of the 1990s, those two groups working hand in glove were joined by a younger generation of Arab Moslem militants from the Middle East, brought up in the tradition of suicide for the cause.
Those three branches, numbering no more than some 2,500 activists in all, form the engine powering contemporary international terrorism. They gained entry into the United States in the last 11 years with the help of moles and agents inside America’s governing institutions, including its intelligence machinery.
Those agencies emphatically deny such penetrations. This is only partly true, according to DEBKA sources. Whereas it is inconceivable that U.S. counterintelligence would directly hire Muslim terrorists, there are known cases of U.S. double agents, who by definition serve two services, knowingly aiding an alien agency, which is close to the Bin Laden network.
Furthermore, U.S. counterintelligence has strived for two decades at least to penetrate the militant Islamic fundamentalist world by planting its own moles and double agents – with very little success. In most cases, those plants remained faithful to their religious tenets, not their American handlers, using their covert American connections to spread the fundamentalist net inside U.S. intelligence itself.
We don't know when they were naturalized, but it would be a good thing to find out. If it turns out to have been during the 95-96 period, we need to demand what background checks were done. There used to be procedures, including swearing that you don't have a criminal record. I don't know what recourse the government has if the applicant lies, but under Clinton, it was probably ignored.
Does David Shippers lurk? He might know how to get this information.
However, the reports of Bush wanting to nationalize aliens are just as bad...
Absolutely. I was just as angry about that.
Before Clinton, applicants had to have been in the country for several years as a legal resident alien (3 to 5 years, don't remember); have letters of referral, knowledge of civics and ability to pass a test, knowledge of English; have no criminal record; have a personal interview. Application process took about a year, which allowed time for a thorough check.
Sleepers, for sure. This is the way it's done, folks. We're talking some long-term planning.
Launching missiles and dropping bombs is fast and easy; identifying and apprehending domestic supporters of these terrorist groups is slow and hard; a body-count is needed to satisy the demand for retribution.
I'm afraid we will have to dramatically increase HUMINT capability. I have no problem with that if it is focussed entirely on collection, but there seems to be a strong tendency to morph human collection exercises and assets into operations.
Since Freeh did it I don't think it's so clear. If I did it, it would be: a) untrue, and; b) intended to sow doubt among his followers.
I think you should have at least qualified this statement with "some of those we are supposed..."
The Oklahoma City bombing middle eastern connection was also buried.And YOU guys forcefully IGNORE the McVeigh connection: "I did it, I alone did it and I'd do it again" McVeigh ...
So you had a number of idealogical recruits that didn't belong to any particular country, that had access via their purported citizenship in this country, and they pursued legal objectives (pilot training) with an ill will in their minds ...
Heck - that fits any number of people in this country on any given day.
It's the intent followed by the execution of that ill will that causes problems. Ill will in this case that evolved into a plan to plow a plane into the WTC towers ...
If we had any sense, the FBI would have this task removed from their responsibilities. It should be transferred to an expanded Secret Service that still has the proper notion of how informants are used, or to the US Marshal Service, which prefers quick arrests.
Typical BS from _Jim. He skips over the real meat of the story - that an Arab, maintaining dual citizenship and accused of terrorism in Israel, was protected from extradition and prosecution by the Clinton Government...gotta love old _Jim. You can always count on this asshole for a pro-Clinton, pro-Statist response. I hope someday I get to meet this douchebag face-to-face.
Loss of 'empire' in our bloated bureaucracies is impossible these days. The best we can hope for is another redundant function to be added, and the internal warfare in those agencies self-destructs them both. Of course, that probably means FEMA would be firmly in charge. ;-)
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