Posted on 09/14/2001 11:54:59 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
Is Jerry Falwell America's Taliban?
I do not know a lot about Jerry Falwell since I am not interested in his religion. Of course, I am familiar with him as a media icon of sorts, and have seen him on television giving commentary on current events as a guest of news talk programs on the networks, such as MSNBC or FOX. Even though I do not necessarily agree with some of the viewpoints which I have heard him express, and since I have no interest in his religion there is sometimes a disconnection between reality as I see it and his religious viewpoint as to why things happen in this world, nevertheless I have admired some of his works and was positive about what I would call a bravery in his personality, a motif of bravery in his openness about his convictions. I want to again clarify, that I am not familiar with everything Reverend Falwell has said either in the past or present since I do not regularly listen to him and certainly do not count myself as one of his enthusiasts.
Of the little that I am familiar of him, my positive feelings about him have now changed due to a recent comment he has made, and I have to seriously ask whether he might be a nut or something, and I don't mean to call him a nut as an insult but rather question if he might have mental problems. Current events, as related to the recent terrorist attack by what appears to be the Osama Bin Laden network of Islamic terrorist fanatics and the religious nut-case government of the Taliban in Afghanistan all converged with this rather odd person's statement, the statement by this Falwell to the effect that America got what it deserved in the form of God's wrath as manifest in this terrorist attack, God's punishment on America because there are too many lesbians, homosexuals, and abortions in America.
Again, Reverend Falwell said in so many words is that civil liberties groups, homosexuals and abortion supporters are partially responsibility for the terrorist attacks which turned God's anger against America, and that what happened to the people in New York, (including one of my own) is "what we deserve".
hmmmm . . . Sounds like Jerry's god agrees with the same god those suicidal sammies who just murdered our people in N.Y. worship. In fact it sounds like Jerry's god and their god is the same god. Because, well, what he is saying is, and it really doesn't matter now if he denies that he is saying this because if what I have just quoted is accurate then he is in fact saying that his God, whoever that is, blew up the WTC because that is what we deserve because there are too many ACLU types and homos running around in America, abortion, etc..
Excuse me, but isn't that what he said? . . . and so, excuse me, but this man is a lunatic and please don't let him or his god anywhere near my house because I have children I have to protect from mentals.
Accounting for what I understand he said, then what this man is, is America's Taliban. Please do not let this man have any political say or power in this nation, because we don't need this kind of Taliban voodoo at any level of power or government in the good ol' USA because such a man if put in any position of leadership would be a menace to world stability and a possible inspiration for followers of this type of cultism to potentially engage in terrorism. It also worries me, and I have to ask, does President Bush have anything to do with this apparent mental case?
Now, as anyone who knows me will tell you, I am no friend of abortionists, and though I have some friends who are homosexual it is a fact that when it comes to political opinnion regarding some of the homosexual agenda the gays and lesbians radicals probably consider me Public Enemy Numer One as they do of Falwell, but . . . I have no doubt, considering the statement of Falwell, that if his type of cultism took over the country, while the Afghan Taliban is aggressive towards it's 'enemies' and the Falwell Taliban would likely not be engaged in systematic aggressive attacks on others - though even this could be possible - there is little doubt that the Falwell Taliban would indeed be a Taliban of sorts in America, and the end of liberty sacrificed to kookiness and live-choking oppression and terror.
There is a lot to admire about President Bush, especially in light of his handling of this recent act of war upon the United States. I hope the President or his Administration has made some comment regarding this scary and frankly lunatic statement by the Falwell preacher, denouncing it as it should. I am concerned that it appears this man might have some following, also the kookiness of his position is disconcerting because it is rather reminiscent of a few, very few but scary, Christians who call themselves supporters of Bush because they think, and quite frankly from the way they act seem to worship, Bush as some sort of Christian President of a status of infallibility - that is it would not matter what Bush did even if he started throwing baby kittens to their death out of Air Force One, it's all justified because he is Pope President of sorts, the infallible anointed President of The New Jerusalem, amen. Somebody better tell Bush, because I don't think he considers himself as such even though it appears some do.
My greatest respect goes to Christians, whom I love. In fact, one of my concerns is how Christians are being turned into the next Jews for the gas chambers by the liberal fascists. Secularism in government is very important, however, so I suppose that Mr. Falwell is eagerly expecting a terrorist truck bomb to slam into the front door of my house, the punishment vented by his god upon me for which I so richly deserve. Who knows, considering our current state of national security and intelligence operations this even might very well take place, but it certainly has nothing to do with God's vengeance upon me.
He doesn't control a country.
He doesn't harbor/encourage terrorists.
He's not about to be nuked by the US.
HE'S JUST A BIG FAT DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't that what the Muslim terrorists are saying?
Ask Jesus into your heart, mean it, and you will be saved. Not perfect. You'll still possess your sinful nature as all Christians do, but you will receive the grace provided by Jesus on the cross. There, He took the punishment for our sins and thereby provided the only way to be forgiven. He became our Savior, if you want saving. You only need to ask. He won't force it on you. It's your free will to accept or reject Him. I highly recommend the former rather than the latter.
Think on it. Pray about it. This is the only prayer He can hear from the unsaved. He said He is THE (emphasis mine) way, the truth and the life. He can not lie. Trust Him. You'll receive the peace that passes all understanding. Trust Him, not me.
No. He was in shock at the time of those remarks, and he's already apologised.
But I've got a question for you. Is it Brian, or Benoit Baldwin, who has earned the respect of the FR community?
(PS ; rhetorical question. No reply necessary.)
No dear.... THIS is what he said.
"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"
--Jerry Falwell on the World Trade Center Attack
If you can't tell the difference, no one here can help you…
HELLO????
Does Jerry Falwell control our or anyone else's government?
The answer you come up with should answer your ridiculous question...
If anything, I think he may have been trying to explain:
1. why the Islam extremists hate the US... as extremely restrictive religious practitioners, they see the US as the primary source of "evil" in the world (pornography, abortion, open homosexuality, materialism & greed, women's rights, lack of spirituality, etc, etc, etc, in addition to supplying money and arms to Osama Bin Laden's enemies). Now, don't ask me how Bin Laden's followers justify killing innocent women & children in their own minds, as I haven't a clue!
2. why he thinks God may not be "protecting" us from the evil of these terrorists as some of Falwell's followers think a "just God" would do.
I do not think he would say we "deserve" to be slaughtered by Muslim terrorists, and I am concerned that the posters here would jump to that conclusion without hearing or reading his exact words, since he has many enemies that would gladly distort his words for their own reasons. (I am not a Falwell follower)
In fact, I heard him being interviewed by a reporter on CNN friday night and he said the comments were made by a guest he was interviewing on his own program, and that he had no control over what his guests say, any more than CNN had control over what he (Falwell) says on their program.
Give what a rest?
You failed to denounce humanist Harry Browne for his self-serving political remarks which rationalized the wanton murder as the result of statist imperial policies,
On the contrary. I condemned Harry Browne's words directly.
so your words here against a Christian leader preaching Christian doctrine on the mystery of suffering have no weight at all.
Is that what Falwell is? A Christian leader preaching the Christian doctrine of the "mystery of suffering"? It would seem to me that Falwell does not speak for Christians. In fact I think he served primarily to embarrass Christians with his words of this day.
Time and again you have proven your "principle" to be: "Do as I say, not as I do."
Self-serving drivel.
A direct quote is contained in post 11 of this thread.
Taliban? No.
Idiot? You betcha.
Don't waste your breath, CJ.
OWK's foaming with excitement at the thought of kicking Falwell while he's down.
After any tragedy, there's always some who say, 'what's in it for my agenda?'
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.