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Far from being the terrorists of the world, the Islamic peoples have been its victims : John Pilger
HIdden Agendas ^ | 9/13/01 | John Pilger

Posted on 09/13/2001 7:38:14 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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1 posted on 09/13/2001 7:38:14 AM PDT by SAMWolf
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Hyphen-american bump
2 posted on 09/13/2001 7:47:40 AM PDT by jedi
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To: SAMWolf
The Palestineans had their chance for statehood in 1948. They instead tried to grab it all, and ended up with nothing. Now they will end up with less than nothing. I have zero sympathy for the bastards.
3 posted on 09/13/2001 7:50:31 AM PDT by Macrinus
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You want comments?

Most of this piece of *hit article by this *sshole Pilger is just a rant on Israel.

His remarks about Iraqi civilians show that he chooses to ignore the choices made by the Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein. It is he who has chosen to act in the way that brings pain to the Iraqi people. The embargo doesn't have to result in no humanitarian aid; that's his choice.

And the supposed Iraqi civilians killed by bombs? They were more likely killed by falling antiaircraft shells and missiles shot by the Iraqis. Lots of civilians in war zones have been killed in this manner - in Britain, in Germany, etc.

Let's make it clear: not all Islamic people hate America or are terrorists. I don't hate those that aren't our enemy, those that can live in peace with Jews and Israel. They don't deserve anything that might come their way.

But I will not stand for these Blame America/Blame Israel First articles that do not indicate the complicity of Arab/Islamic leaders, and the willing acquiesence of many people of that region. Would Americans be cheering in the streets if half of Bagdhad was leveled and thousands of innocents died? Did we cheer when we hit that Iraqi army bunker filled with civilians? No.

We will cheer when we hit those responsible for this attack and their supporters.

4 posted on 09/13/2001 7:54:45 AM PDT by michaelt
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The palastinians have no just cause. Anyone who supports them after their attack on us is a traitor.
5 posted on 09/13/2001 8:02:35 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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Pilger's article looks like a divide-and-conquer tactic. We have to stay focused on what has happened and make the planners pay.
6 posted on 09/13/2001 8:03:02 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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You use examples of America causing death to Iraq citizens. and you blame America for not allowing a Palestinian state. Iraq's were given the option to remove their army from Kuwait of fight. They chose to fight, so they died as fools. The Palestinians have refused to accept the Jews as neighbors and have said that they will exterminate them from the earth. War to a fundamentalist Islamic is the attacking of school busses and blowing up dance halls. http://fatcatnews.com
7 posted on 09/13/2001 8:03:56 AM PDT by Liberal Bob (http://fatcatnews.com)
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Pilger is Australia's Noam Chomsky. And he visits the US regularly to give aid and comfort to his socialist pals there.

Next time he arrives at LAX, en route to a soft interview at NPR, let's hear the snap of the rubber gloves, and the click-click of the flashlight.....

8 posted on 09/13/2001 8:06:43 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Hopefully, you have NOT encoraged the posting of more racist, bigoted, anti-Arab, anti-Muslim drivel by extremists seeking to exploit this hate crime against America to their own, previously thinly-veiled, political agendas.
9 posted on 09/13/2001 8:06:44 AM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: SAMWolf
Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Hopefully, you have NOT encouraged the posting of more racist, bigoted, anti-Arab, anti-Muslim drivel by extremists seeking to exploit this hate crime against America to their own, previously thinly-veiled, political agendas.
10 posted on 09/13/2001 8:07:07 AM PDT by Hail Caesar
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    . . .   Barak's peace proposal, as Laor points out, was "the lying sales-talk of all those who marketed a shopping list for the Palestinians that offered them '90 per cent' of the West Bank: that is, 90 per cent of what would be left of it after Israel kept its expansion around Jerusalem, its military roads and bases, its settlements . . .

    Oh yes, how un-generous of the Israelis to offer a mere 90% (or 70% or even 40%) to a group whose only announced ambition for the past half century was to push all the Jews into the sea!

  It would have been so much better if the Israelis had given Arafat exactly as much as his Arab brethren, the Jordanians and Egyptians gave him during the 19 years that they occupied the West Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza ... namely, nothing, not an inch of land. Heck, I wouldn't mind if Israel gave Arafat twice that!


11 posted on 09/13/2001 8:11:14 AM PDT by DonQ
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Well... If the world of islam thinks they are have already received the shitty end of the stick, boy are they in for a surprise. Bogus article!
12 posted on 09/13/2001 8:11:44 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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.... the posting of more racist, bigoted, anti-Arab, anti-Muslim drivel by extremists

You mean like THIS ?

Cordially,

13 posted on 09/13/2001 8:15:17 AM PDT by Diamond
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Those so-called "palestinians" are nothing more than a bunch of bedouins who are dedicated to the annihilation of Israel. If John Pilger believes that there is any justification for the Trade Center Murders, then may he and any who agree with him suffer the fate which is about to befall those bedouins. This America! "Love it or Leave it!"
14 posted on 09/13/2001 8:19:12 AM PDT by old school
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The Palestineans had their chance for statehood in 1948. They instead tried to grab it all, and ended up with nothing. Now they will end up with less than nothing. I have zero sympathy for the bastards.

So their children, and their children's children, should suffer?

That's racist thinking.

15 posted on 09/13/2001 8:20:57 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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The palastinians have no just cause. Anyone who supports them after their attack on us is a traitor.

There we go. If you don't support the machine-gunning of little Palestinian children on the other side of the world, you're a traitor.

Why don't we go after the handful of big men who did this unspeakable act, and leave the millions of little kids alone?

16 posted on 09/13/2001 8:24:57 AM PDT by 537 Votes
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Civilian areas

The Iraqis intentionally locate their radar installations in populated areas.

So be it.

An estimated 200,000 Iraqis, according to the Health Education Trust, died during and in the immediate aftermath of the slaughter known as the Gulf war.

Oddly enough, killing people is what war is about. From our point, the only "bad" thing about this number is there weren't more killed.

At least a million civilians, half of them children, have since died in Iraq as a result of a medieval embargo imposed by the United States and Britain.

Probably a bogus statistic. We'll assume it's true for the sake of argument. So?

The Iraqis know how it is they can get it lifted. If they choose to keep it in place, why should be concerned?

In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the mujahedin, which gave birth to the fanatical Taliban, was largely the creation of the Central Intelligence Agency;

Since it's our responsibility, we should own up to it and put and end to him, then.

the enduring illegal occupation by Israel would have collapsed long a go were it not for American backing.

In the end, "illegal" is determined by the people who win the war and write the books about it.

Far from being the terrorists of the world, the Islamic peoples have been its vi ctims - that is, the victims of American fundamentalism, whose power, in all its forms, military, strategic and economic, is the greatest source of terrorism on earth.

ROTFLMAO :-)

Bartender! I'll take whatever it is that he's drinking!

I'm sorry, if I read any further, I'd hurt myself laughing at this...

17 posted on 09/13/2001 8:25:25 AM PDT by dfrussell
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The prophet Jeremiah was accused by some of treason because he had hard words for the kingdom of Judah.
18 posted on 09/13/2001 8:28:29 AM PDT by Romulus
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, let's hear the snap of the rubber gloves, and the click-click of the flashlight.....

ROFLMAO

I hope this wakes up the Aussies to the war on freedom.

19 posted on 09/13/2001 8:29:06 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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Thanks for the linked FR thread, Diamond (post #13 above). Your point is well taken. Racism and bigotry cuts several ways and from several differing "sides."

I, for one, had no personal "dog in this fight", at least (not really) until Tuesday when that vicious hate crime was committed against my people - the American people.

20 posted on 09/13/2001 8:31:09 AM PDT by Hail Caesar
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