Stephanopolous says terrorists caused flight 800

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[opinionator]

Jennings was talking to George Stephanopolous, who claimed that flight 800 was brought down by terrorists. Anyone else see this? Also heard someone else make this claim earlier today.

[MHT]

Like Stephie just figured it out? Where has he been?

[dalebert]

A friend that works at Walmart said a couple of arab men came in last saturday or sunday to get trout license. one refused to give identification and said he did not have his passport with him, got angree and said he would worry about a license later. the other man gave a Dallas I.D. I thought you had to carry your passport with you. Struck me as strange that these two had traveled almost 200 miles to a tiny okla town to fish for trout and one did not have his passport to get license.

[MHGinTN]

Terrorists learn from their mistakes, especially when an organization is running the show such as Bin Laden.

That passengers have been able to phone out from these aricraft tells you such may have occurred on 800 and the gov decided to stop the flight (splash it) before the bigger disaster. The terrorists learned from that to choose a flight(s) that would be arriving at target quicker and made this attack. We may be seeing a few more of these attempts until we get the full truth, then we can actually start to work on the real problems ... with the whole truth that is. Yes, a Navy missle may have taken the 8oo flight down or an Airforce A to A. [By the way, I'm a writer; we spend long days and nights living in our imaginations ... we're kooky enough in our thinking to jump to these conclusions before all facts are in.]

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

Where the H**L has George been the past five years? He waits until NOW to say this?

He hasn't been up to it until now. He used to think the subject was beneath him. Now he no longer sells it short.

[holden]

That other Carthage, let it be erased!

HF

[SKYDRIFTER]

For what it's worth -

Three weeks ago, the overseas papers quoted Bin Laden as saying that a major strike against the USA was soon to come. That's a lot of warning.

Bear in mind that the FAA gave Bin Laden an engraved invitation with their selective ignorance of airport security, defying Congress with the GAO citing the FAA blatant failures. DOCUMENTED!

Ramsi Yousef claimed his group was responsible for TWA-800. Yet FBI's Kallstrom said there was no evidence. So, why did the FBI go fishing for Stinger remnants after the recovery effort?

Still, no appreciable increase to aircraft security.

Note the New York Times catch of the FBI involvement in the first WTC bombing.

The FAA allowed a smugglers paradise to be built in the new Guam airport terminal under Clinton. Look up "Project Bojinka" on the internet.

McVeigh's attorney, Stephen Jones, identified a middle-east connection in the Oklahoma City bombing which couldn't be denied. Yet he was massively blocked from investigating it or presenting it.

The WTC / Pentagon flying was that of a pilot who is current at the controls of a simulator, with practice at hitting the specific targets.

Among others, former FAA security agent, Steve Elson, has had a crusade against all of DC on the lack of airport security. There was warning galore - as usual.

Boston has a terrible record for airport security.

It's early, but it appears that the hijackers slipped knives past security - no big trick by the FAA 'special' standards. I'm guessing the hijacking was a team of 2 - 3 per aircraft.

The news footage of the WTC / Pentagon strikes strongly suggest:

1. The hijackers were skilled pilots, with an experience bias toward the 757/767.

2. The flying exhibits exact planning, practice and recent proficiency. At the airspeed of the strike, the eye-hand coordination demands would be too high for casual flying skill - with, or without, an autopilot engaged.

My guess is that proficiency was acquired in a stateside flight simulator facility, offering airliner models with high-level graphics capability, with the WTC & the Pentagon in the visual data-base. It's unlikely that a program such as "Microsoft Flight Simulator" could account for the flying skills required.

Relative to the FAA disregard for safety, evidenced by the GAO report on lax airport security, as well as other legitimate complaints - somebody needs to get the FAA honest. We're very likely to see this again.

The FAA has permitted a flimsy cockpit door which wouldn't keep anybody out. They've had cockpit break-ins before by sky-ragers; this isn't anything new.

Notice that in the history of bombings against the USA, there have been warnings galore in the newspapers, etc, but the security agencies always get surprised. Notice that there have been no changes.

[independentmind]

My guess is that proficiency was acquired in a stateside flight simulator facility, offering airliner models with high-level graphics capability, with the WTC & the Pentagon in the visual data-base

Why a stateside simulator as opposed to one that was overseas?

BTW, I'd be interested in your opinion about the level of sophistication required for the attack. Some here claim it could be carried off with a group of "sixteen smart guys." From what I have heard, the level of precision involved and the targets chosen strongly indicate that this may be more the simple terrorism.

[aruanan]

Jennings was talking to George Stephanopolous, who claimed that flight 800 was brought down by terrorists. Anyone else see this? Also heard someone else make this claim earlier today.

Earlier today I heard a news guy on a major network, maybe ABC, mention "the bombing of TWA flight 800".

[rollin]

He is serious. But they don't waste the bird's capabilities on such mundane things as speeding cars.

Got more important fish to fry!

[thinden]

check headline

[thinden]

Katie Couric said the same thing on the Today show! She said, "...and after the terrorist bomb attack on TWA Flight 800..."

Just pull the little string on her back and Katie will say anything she is told to.

16 Posted on 09/11/2001 14:12:17 PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

katie's the other one that mentioned the bombing of twa 800

[Political Junkie Too]

I thought I was imagining that. Thanks for confirming that I'm not going crazy (today).

-PJ

[SKYDRIFTER]

My guess is that the greatest sophistication was in keeping the pilot's skills up to the needed proficiency and the timing.

Complexity kills operations such as this, so I'm more inclined to think it was the 'dirty dozen,' with a fair amount of money behind them.

In other words, simple-is-best.

The FAA track record on airport security is a joke. I suspect the security penetration was easy. I doubt there were any 'inside workers.'

Many people are ignorant as to the thousands of Muslims that the CIA brought into the U.S. as a reward for supporting operations overseas.

The Muslim devotion to Islam far exceeds any other loyalty. While Americans are pandered the equality issue, tribalism will always rule the planet. Thus, you find the likes of Jesse Jackson with a license to practice racism.

With some good propaganda, the terrorists prostitute Islam to produce the tribalism we saw today. I think they took a lesson from the Crusades.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I thought I was imagining that. Thanks for confirming that I'm not going crazy (today).

I'm not really confirming it. I didn't see it. I am parroting what I read on another thread. Just so you know.

[Gil4]

Stephanopolous...claimed that flight 800 was brought down by terrorists

He must be spending too much time on FR & Newsmax. What a wacko.

[chemainus]

Re: China.... Look up Timor... Indonesia.... what the hell do you folks think has been happening there ??? We just lost 1/5 of the planet EARTH with BOTH CHINA and the NEW CENTER OF MUSLIM POWER now in Indonesia... NOT THE MIDDLE EAST !!!! Wake up.... the guys you hate are your Daddy's enemies...and they are moving TOWARD us !!! Look to our only adversary and do not look to a single " place/person" look for a web and bankrolling and people ... a web of cells... look to Panama, Venezuela , Indonesia and see what's going on NOW ... not 25 YEARS AGO !!!!

[chemainus]

Is there a VCR COPY of this ?????

[Judge Parker]

"Where the H**L has George been the past five years? He waits until NOW to say this?"

Exactly.

The people like him often talk like this in private, but seldom in public. They think we're scum and have no business knowing what is going on.